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Is there something wrong with this dial on my newly bought Seamaster De ville?

  1. GothenburgPeter Oct 31, 2018

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    Hi fellow Omega people. I just bought a new watch for my little brother (he`s gonna pay for it eventually). My question is as follows, why doesn`t it say T with the swiss made? Isn`t there tritium on the markers? Are there any franken mischmasch with this one? The seller said it is a cal 565,, I only have a few photos of it simply because its in belgium at the moment. I could need som expertice from you guys.. Thanks in advance // Peter B
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  2. Shabbaz Oct 31, 2018

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    What was it? Starting from 1964 TT regulation? Before that you can expect dials with tritium but without the t's... What year is the watch?
     
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  3. Shabbaz Oct 31, 2018

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    What's the serialnumber?
     
  5. shaun hk Fairy nuffer Oct 31, 2018

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    That dial looks ok to me, though I have been wrong before - just ask my wife!
     
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  6. GothenburgPeter Oct 31, 2018

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    Thanks of this Shabbaz :D and sorry don't have the serial number. The watch is in belgium with the seller at the moment. The thing I'm concerned about is that IF its a de ville from 1964 or earlier, how come the seller said it was a cal 565? I read somewhere that the cal565 was produced in 1965 and after...... :/
     
  7. kingsrider Thank you Sir! May I have another? Oct 31, 2018

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    Sometimes when the hour indices do not have tritium, the dial will only have Swiss Made (no T) even though there is tritium in the hands. With Omega the only thing that is certain, is that nothing is certain.
    I would like to see better pictures of the hour indices. I can't tell for sure, but it looks like there is a little cutout for the lume on them.
    If this is true, it may mean that the dial has been redone and that may account for the lack of T's.
     
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  8. Rochete Oct 31, 2018

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    Ask the seller a pic of the movement where the serial number is visible. You should've asked previous to buying, actually.
     
  9. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Oct 31, 2018

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    It looks like the indices have lumed notches, hard to say from the really crappy photo, although the dial and hands look like they may have been re-lumed.

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  10. Blk.kitties Oct 31, 2018

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    I have been wondering what the TT stood for. Thanks for this thread GothenburgPeter. This forum has been very educational.
     
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  11. GothenburgPeter Nov 1, 2018

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    yes i should have.. but it was at auction and there was no time
     
  12. padders Oooo subtitles! Nov 1, 2018

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    I don’t think that is too bad. You can see a couple of lume notches but the old lume may have fallen out and hopefully been cleaned up at service. The fact you can see notches at some places suggest it hasn’t been relumed. The Ts weren’t always there on every model with a tritium dial. It isn’t reference I have rushed to collect but I have seen much worse than that.
     
  13. Shabbaz Nov 1, 2018

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    Sharp observation. Does the seller know the modelnumber? Although the dial looks good to me (relumed or not, I dont know) I would be interested if there were more SMDV's to be found on the web with cal 565 and tritium but no t's. I did a quick search but did not find them.
     
  14. GothenburgPeter Nov 1, 2018

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    Thanks a lot for the help guys, im truly humble :) i Will take it to a watchguy here in gothenburg who’s an omega expert for him to look at the movement and determin the age and quality of the movement.
     
  15. GothenburgPeter Nov 1, 2018

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    Thanks a lot :) maybe the seller just thought it was a cal565 for some reason. In My book it should be a cal562 based on the loss of T’s. The plot thickens...
     
  16. GothenburgPeter Nov 1, 2018

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    DCA9B889-E9E9-4E9D-9506-869857B34137.png I found this piece on the internet. This one is a 1963 and it looks almost identical to mine?! It has Lume but No T’s on the dial! The only concern is That if mine is identical to this one, Why does the seller state that its a cal565? I asked for pictures of the movement and ref.nr and can only hope for an answer
     
  17. Shabbaz Nov 1, 2018

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    Unishell case so I would be surprised I he has those pictures. We will wait and see...
     
  18. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Nov 1, 2018

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    What the seller states and what they know are often different, if it doesn't have quick-set date then its likely a cal 562.
     
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  19. GothenburgPeter Nov 1, 2018

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    I see, i actually have a Seamaster de ville with quick-set and therefore almost certainly a cal.565. The seller have not responded to my questions anyway... But from my extended googleing and hobby-research ;) I personally think this is a 1963 Seamster De ville with a cal.562
     
  20. Shabbaz Nov 1, 2018

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