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Omega can still make a beautiful classic watch.
I recently picked up this lightly worn Tresor. Until I saw it, I had no idea that it existed. 18k gold, enamel dial, no date, and a jump hour for use when traveling. I confess to being surprised that Omega still made a watch like this, although it's been discontinued.






How big is it in diameter?
I never knew it existed and would have taken one in Rose gold in a heartbeat myself
 
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The new reverse panda 3861 is growing on me. But I have four other 3861's and don't want to sell any to get one. Probably wait and get a 321 next year.
 
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How big is it in diameter?
I never knew it existed and would have taken one in Rose gold in a heartbeat myself

Measures 40mm. But looks bigger than a 42mm speedy. It's thin, so sits nicely.


Omega has beautiful rose gold. The sedna black dial speedy is a heart breaker.
 
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I return to this thread from time to time to consider the topic question.

It is not only Omega.

This morning I perused the following factory websites.
Omega
Rolex
IWC
Zenith
Vacheron Constantin
Patek Phillippe

Many of the watches exhibited are pure artistry with exquisite styling. The marketing blurb though is hyped and vacuous and the prices seem uniformly bloated. That is the only way I can find to describe it. The sameness of it all pervaded, running like a thread through all the sites. After some time spent (wasted?) reading in each site I felt almost slimy with the wretched excess.

The Forum here has a cozy, fun, hobbyist feel about it that is wholly absent in each of the sites. One does not relate to the models shown wearing the watches and I would be frightened if I could relate to the advertising blurb. Just how the product will lend relevance to one's life is is intentionally left unclear.

Over the years I have been in the boutiques of most of the brands and somehow didn't come away with the slimy feeling that a visit to the websites elicited.
 
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After some time spent (wasted?) reading in each site I felt almost slimy with the wretched excess.
That seems a little dramatic.
 
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That seems a little dramatic.

Perhaps, however it is not as dramatic as the advertising copy read this morning.
 
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I am so much into vintage, that the modern stuff seems irrelevant.
I agree I like the slightly older stuff, modern stuff while nice does not tickle my fancy as much.
 
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I return to this thread from time to time to consider the topic question.

It is not only Omega.

This morning I perused the following factory websites.
Omega
Rolex
IWC
Zenith
Vacheron Constantin
Patek Phillippe

Many of the watches exhibited are pure artistry with exquisite styling. The marketing blurb though is hyped and vacuous and the prices seem uniformly bloated. That is the only way I can find to describe it. The sameness of it all pervaded, running like a thread through all the sites. After some time spent (wasted?) reading in each site I felt almost slimy with the wretched excess.

The Forum here has a cozy, fun, hobbyist feel about it that is wholly absent in each of the sites. One does not relate to the models shown wearing the watches and I would be frightened if I could relate to the advertising blurb. Just how the product will lend relevance to one's life is is intentionally left unclear.

Over the years I have been in the boutiques of most of the brands and somehow didn't come away with the slimy feeling that a visit to the websites elicited.
Well, marketing does what marketing does. In order to justify their positions and salaries, the marketing team in each company has to do at least "something". So, they chase trends in design and verbiage.

Currently this translates into enormous images of watches in some sort of "setting" (in the case of Zenith, it looks like a workbench, Omega showing the video game watch within an animation, Rolex the same) and what little text there is has to be searched for. This is because:

A. The vast majority of website visits are done on a phone (small screen).

B. Most people buy on "image" / how something looks / they think will make them look, not on quality (same for wine, people buy the label).

For Omega, they seem to be split between people who are younger and play video games (007 First Light Speedmaster) and people who think the watches used 60+ years ago in space / the moon landings are still "cool" (I would venture that these people are older). It is, I think, a confusing brand for many people.

If you are looking for intrinsic value, luxury watches are not that. They are jewellery.
 
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Well, marketing does what marketing does. In order to justify their positions and salaries, the marketing team in each company has to do at least "something". So, they chase trends in design and verbiage.

Currently this translates into enormous images of watches in some sort of "setting" (in the case of Zenith, it looks like a workbench, Omega showing the video game watch within an animation, Rolex the same) and what little text there is has to be searched for. This is because:

A. The vast majority of website visits are done on a phone (small screen).

B. Most people buy on "image" / how something looks / they think will make them look, not on quality (same for wine, people buy the label).

For Omega, they seem to be split between people who are younger and play video games (007 First Light Speedmaster) and people who think the watches used 60+ years ago in space / the moon landings are still "cool" (I would venture that these people are older). It is, I think, a confusing brand for many people.

If you are looking for intrinsic value, luxury watches are not that. They are jewellery.
I think you've hit the nail on a couple of points, which I've highlighted.

Over the past year or so I'm slowly coming to the opinion that mechanical watches (especially from luxury brands) are basically jewellery that just happens to tell the time (shock horror!). We may buy tool watches like divers and chronographs and tell ourselves that they are essential for everyday life or that they are essential for certain professions or pursuits. That might have been true in the 1950s but not in the late 20th and early 21st centuries. A modern tool watch is something akin to a Casio G-Shock. It's got all the functions you'll ever need and can take a real beating. We can still buy a mechanical watch as a tribute to traditional watchmaking, for the satisfaction of ownership and for the image we want to project to the world. A bit like how driving an SUV may project the image of an outdoorsy person, even though the vast majority of these vehicles will never see a bush track.
 
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Today I got a new product email about the Seamster First Light edition. How excited should I be about a watch dressed up with logos based on a video game derived from a deteriorating film franchise built around a fictional character?

Next step a Wallace and Gromit Grand Day Out speed master to celebrate their trip to the moon is search of cheese?

The Omega brand continues it's spiral downwards.
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Today I got a new product email about the Seamster First Light edition. How excited should I be about a watch dressed up with logos based on a video game derived from a deteriorating film franchise built around a fictional character?

Next step a Wallace and Gromit Grand Day Out speed master to celebrate their trip to the moon is search of cheese?

The Omega brand continues it's spiral downwards.

I don't like the First Light watch specifically, but the argument about Bond in general seems a bit bizarre. Surely you must agree Omega has benefited massively out of their link to the Bond franchise?

Also, I would absolutely love to see a Wallace and Gromit Grand Day Out Speedy. 😜
 
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Next step a Wallace and Gromit Grand Day Out speed master to celebrate their trip to the moon is search of cheese?

Not much different than a Tin tin speedy, is it?
 
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Today I got a new product email about the Seamster First Light edition. How excited should I be about a watch dressed up with logos based on a video game derived from a deteriorating film franchise built around a fictional character?

Next step a Wallace and Gromit Grand Day Out speed master to celebrate their trip to the moon is search of cheese?

The Omega brand continues it's spiral downwards.
The game is actually quite amazing, and is universally praised.
 
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Today I got a new product email about the Seamster First Light edition. How excited should I be about a watch dressed up with logos based on a video game derived from a deteriorating film franchise built around a fictional character?

Next step a Wallace and Gromit Grand Day Out speed master to celebrate their trip to the moon is search of cheese?

The Omega brand continues it's spiral downwards.

Do not give them any ideas !
 
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Well, marketing does what marketing does. In order to justify their positions and salaries, the marketing team in each company has to do at least "something". So, they chase trends in design and verbiage.

Currently this translates into enormous images of watches in some sort of "setting" (in the case of Zenith, it looks like a workbench, Omega showing the video game watch within an animation, Rolex the same) and what little text there is has to be searched for. This is because:

A. The vast majority of website visits are done on a phone (small screen).

B. Most people buy on "image" / how something looks / they think will make them look, not on quality (same for wine, people buy the label).

For Omega, they seem to be split between people who are younger and play video games (007 First Light Speedmaster) and people who think the watches used 60+ years ago in space / the moon landings are still "cool" (I would venture that these people are older). It is, I think, a confusing brand for many people.

If you are looking for intrinsic value, luxury watches are not that. They are jewellery.
Very interesting comment, while in the military the June 2023 Omega scandal might get the SNAFU acronym (situation normal all fouled up), reading articles and even an embryonic dissertation, we have learned terms like "imbroglio" and "opprobrium" which encouraged authors to even look deeper in the hazy world of all kinds of auctions.
Meanwhile showing almost half-a-century devotion & passion to the Omega brand has avoided this GOM turning into a MOM... 😉