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I was last week in the Omega Museum in Biel. Don't get me wrong, all the strange and quirky pieces are valuable part of their history, and things I really enjoyed to see. However, I share the opinion, that they had some really entry-level pieces in the 1980-ties and 1990-ties. The image of Omega as exclusively luxury brand has been build in the new century over years, and now we practically complain about it.
 
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I was last week in the Omega Museum in Biel. Don't get me wrong, all the strange and quirky pieces are valuable part of their history, and things I really enjoyed to see. However, I share the opinion, that they had some really entry-level pieces in the 1980-ties and 1990-ties. The image of Omega as exclusively luxury brand has been build in the new century over years, and now we practically complain about it.
I think that this is a very fair point. I still have great respect for Omega and they still make a great watch. I like that Omega is always working to improve its products and that it’s not afraid to take some chances - unlike that other big watch company that moves in glacial speed. What I miss from Omega, especially in the 1950’s and 1960’s, is that they were THE watch to have. Omega was just turning out hits and hits every year with beautiful designs and spectacularly good engineering. I’m afraid that those times will never return.
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It’s a really tough, competitive market all around. Very hard to introduce something new and tasteful, design wise, that hasn’t been done before.

I think the Observatory line was a brave move, but the appeal is limited, at least for me, and the price point is way too ambitious.

Enthusiasts still love the Sub, and the Speedmaster. These have been in their respective lines for years. I think the watch companies should follow suit with their other, classic watches: keep the timeless designs that everyone agrees is appealing, and just upgrade the materials, movement quality, etc.

Here’s an example where I think Omega got it right: classic design, bumped the diameter to 37mm, beautiful enamel dial.

 
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I think that this is a very fair point. I still have great respect for Omega and they still make a great watch. I like that Omega is always working to improve its products and that it’s not afraid to take some chances - unlike that other big watch company that moves in glacial speed. What I miss from Omega, especially in the 1950’s and 1960’s, is that they were THE watch to have. Omega was just turning out hits and hits every year with beautiful designs and spectacularly good engineering. I’m afraid that those times will never return.

My dad told me that his dad was so proud, when he bought his Omega in the early 50s. He was a man of modest means, so he could have bought a less expensive piece but he didn’t 😀
 
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Enthusiasts still love the Sub, and the Speedmaster. These have been in their respective lines for years. I think the watch companies should follow suit with their other, classic watches: keep the timeless designs that everyone agrees is appealing, and just upgrade the materials, movement quality, etc.

This is broadly what I was trying to get at earlier, I wish Omega took this approach with more of their lines. The Speedy is great, it's the same iconic watch but in a continually improved and refined format.

The antithesis of that approach is how they choose to handle the Railmaster. There's been four generations of that and each generation has been a partial or complete reinvention. It was an antimagnetic tool watch, then it was a tool oriented Aqua Terra with no antimagnetism, then it was a funky brushed/fauxtina dial with denim straps, and now it's back to being a quirky Aqua Terra with polished surfaces and gradient dials. If Omega had just stuck to the original intent and refined it, maybe it wouldn't have to keep being discontinued and reinvented over and over.

Here’s an example where I think Omega got it right: classic design, bumped the diameter to 37mm, beautiful enamel dial.


The dimensions of this are much better, the Observatory would have had a warmer reception in this size in my opinion. Price would still have been an issue. I also still think it's quite weird to not show the seconds on that product line, given the history.
 
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Slightly off topic, but has anyone noticed the excitement around the new Longines Hydroconquest? That watch seems to be a massive hit. Price, aesthetics, etc. The part that has me excited is the dimensions are smaller and thinner than the previous generation. Hopefully this rubs off on Omega with a similar change to the Diver 300M. And yes, I know not everyone wants a dive watch in the 39-40 mm range. Omega still has the larger dimensions covered.
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I think that this is a very fair point. I still have great respect for Omega and they still make a great watch. I like that Omega is always working to improve its products and that it’s not afraid to take some chances - unlike that other big watch company that moves in glacial speed. What I miss from Omega, especially in the 1950’s and 1960’s, is that they were THE watch to have. Omega was just turning out hits and hits every year with beautiful designs and spectacularly good engineering. I’m afraid that those times will never return.
The way people chase trends and hype instead of accuracy, precision and quality, I doubt it will my friend.
 
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It’s a really tough, competitive market all around. Very hard to introduce something new and tasteful, design wise, that hasn’t been done before.

I think the Observatory line was a brave move, but the appeal is limited, at least for me, and the price point is way too ambitious.

Enthusiasts still love the Sub, and the Speedmaster. These have been in their respective lines for years. I think the watch companies should follow suit with their other, classic watches: keep the timeless designs that everyone agrees is appealing, and just upgrade the materials, movement quality, etc.

Here’s an example where I think Omega got it right: classic design, bumped the diameter to 37mm, beautiful enamel dial.

I couldn’t agree more
 
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This is broadly what I was trying to get at earlier, I wish Omega took this approach with more of their lines. The Speedy is great, it's the same iconic watch but in a continually improved and refined format.

The antithesis of that approach is how they choose to handle the Railmaster. There's been four generations of that and each generation has been a partial or complete reinvention. It was an antimagnetic tool watch, then it was a tool oriented Aqua Terra with no antimagnetism, then it was a funky brushed/fauxtina dial with denim straps, and now it's back to being a quirky Aqua Terra with polished surfaces and gradient dials. If Omega had just stuck to the original intent and refined it, maybe it wouldn't have to keep being discontinued and reinvented over and over.



The dimensions of this are much better, the Observatory would have had a warmer reception in this size in my opinion. Price would still have been an issue. I also still think it's quite weird to not show the seconds on that product line, given the history.
The price of the observatory is ok. Remember it’s the flagship line. These would be aimed are the more affluent. Same thing back in the 1950’s and 1960’s, we are just used to picking up a Connie at second hand pricing.
 
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I think the new Constellations are pretty great and wear well even on my 6.5in wrist. Too much mulah for me, but that’s how I feel about most brands at that tier and is more a reflection of my price sensitivity than Omega’s pricing strategy.

Go look at fan bases for other similar brands and you’ll hear the same complaints about pricing.

 
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I think the new Constellations are pretty great and wear well even on my 6.5in wrist. Too much mulah for me, but that’s how I feel about most brands at that tier and is more a reflection of my price sensitivity than Omega’s pricing strategy.

Go look at fan bases for other similar brands and you’ll hear the same complaints about pricing.

Looks good.
 
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Slightly off topic, but has anyone noticed the excitement around the new Longines Hydroconquest? That watch seems to be a massive hit. Price, aesthetics, etc. The part that has me excited is the dimensions are smaller and thinner than the previous generation. Hopefully this rubs off on Omega with a similar change to the Diver 300M. And yes, I know not everyone wants a dive watch in the 39-40 mm range. Omega still has the larger dimensions covered.

The new HC is a very nice piece, and at 39mm manages to retain its proportions.

I actually find the 300m Diver to wear very well on a strap on my 6.75 wrist, though less so on the bracelet. More the lug-to-lug than anything else, IMO, given the fine overall balance. I own a Sinn 206 that's much thicker but wears beautifully overall.

Agree with many here that incremental improvements or adjustments rather than wholesale reworking is the way to go, but I think we see the success of that approach with the Speedmaster and Seamaster Heritage lines -- the latter in particular is an absolutely stunning watch.

The Railmaster has been messed with pretty badly no doubt. They had the magic formula in the older 39mm version IMO but perhaps it was ahead of its time. Certainly wish I'd picked one up then.
 
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I was last week in the Omega Museum in Biel. Don't get me wrong, all the strange and quirky pieces are valuable part of their history, and things I really enjoyed to see. However, I share the opinion, that they had some really entry-level pieces in the 1980-ties and 1990-ties. The image of Omega as exclusively luxury brand has been build in the new century over years, and now we practically complain about it.
I grew up in the USSR behind the Iron Curtain. The first luxury watch I ever heard of was in a 1970s Soviet satire piece. It mocked a desperate, broke capitalist trying to impress a greedy banker with a fake Omega just to get a loan.
 
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I grew up in the USSR behind the Iron Curtain. The first luxury watch I ever heard of was in a 1970s Soviet satire piece. It mocked a desperate, broke capitalist trying to impress a greedy banker with a fake Omega just to get a loan.
I grew up on the same side of the curtain as you 😀
One of my granddads had an Omega - my dad told me how he saved the money for it, how they traveled together to the capital to buy it, and what a special moment it was to him - my dad was a schoolboy yet. My granddad had it not to impress anyone, but due to appreciation of the watch itself, and wore it the whole second half of his life.