Intro and Seamaster 600 questions

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Hi all,

I'm new to the forum, and thought I'd start with a brief intro. I've been obsessing over Omega watches since I was a kid, and have been looking over this forum for a couple of years but only recently decided to join up. Here's the state of my Omega collection thus far:



From left to right each watch has an important place and story in my life. The first, Seamaster Planet Ocean, was bought about a decade ago and was my first 'take a deep breath and make a big financial decision' watch purchase. I've already decided that I'll have it for the rest of my life and hand it down to the kids.

The second is my first Speedmaster and current favourite watch. I'd note that it's a mod of the Apollo 11 35th - one of the first things to bring me to speedies after all these years was seeing the range of options available and the thriving mod community (at least until the parts dried up). This watch also represents my first attempt at a mod.

The last, a Seamaster 600 in gold, is actually my most recent acquisition. A few weeks ago my mum dropped by and gave this to me unexpectedly (I hadn't seen it before that time). Turns out it was my grandfather's, who wore it until his death in 1970. He left it with his wife (my grandmother), who wore it regularly until she also died, when I was a couple of months old. It hasn't been touched for the close to 40 years until my mum gave it to me. It was a pretty special moment; my mum knew I liked watches but not any brand in particular, and when she handed me this family heirloom she had no idea that I was also wearing an Omega at the time!

This brings me to the point of the thread - I plan to keep the 600 and want to bring it back to health if possible, although I know next to nothing about vintage restos or this model in particular.

I aimed to start by fitting an appropriate Omega strap, although quickly had some difficulties with this. The watch seems to have one quick release / gimmick spring bar that has corroded and is currently immovable. The other bar seems to be a more standard spring bar although is also pretty much stuck in place. I'd welcome your advice on some related aspects like:

- Is this the appropriate configuration of bars for this model? Is the quick release bar standard in particular?
- Should I try to work on removing the jammed quick release bar or leave it to a professional?
- What are your thoughts about dealing with these bars in a resto? Should they be retained as part of the original model specifications (I note that they seem to be in gold or otherwise matched to the case), or does Omega still supply this kinds of parts?
- Do I need any special strap specifications for these types of bars?

Any other advice on how to best approach a resto for this watch; model specifications (I haven't tried to remove the case back yet) or other thoughts would be welcome. As I mentioned, I'm new to the vintage space although am keen to learn for the sake of giving this heirloom the attention and respect it deserves. Cheers!
 
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Polish the plexi
If scratches to deep new plexi
Give it a service
Ditch the bars
I use this... not sure if the watchmakers do the same...馃榿
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And order a nice cognac or red brown alligator strap for $ 30 from vietnam
 
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If the crown needs to be replaced you can source it on ebay. Maybe a forum member has one in a drawer...
 
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I have no answer to your questions, but I just wanted to say that you have a very nice collection! That orange bezel on the Planet Ocean is especially gorgeous.
 
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I use this... not sure if the watchmakers do the same...馃榿

Hahaha if that's what's involved I'll definitely leave it to the professionals!

Thanks for the advice - so we're not particularly concerned about original bars then? Dump them for a new working set?
 
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Polish the plexi
If scratches to deep new plexi

Sorry also can I ask - do I have to be particularly precious about the gold finish when using something like polywatch? I haven't dealt with gold watches before and this 600 seems to have a pretty thin / frail finish...

 
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But maybe it's best to leave the case as it is.
 
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Hahaha if that's what's involved I'll definitely leave it to the professionals!

Thanks for the advice - so we're not particularly concerned about original bars then? Dump them for a new working set?
Yes. Dump them and buy normal springbars for 18mm lugs.

And I really used that tool for dozens of watches. But maybe @Archer or @ChrisN have some better ideas...
 
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Those bolt action springbars can be a pain so, I'd just replace them.

You can use anything that you have (like those nippers) or wire cutters to cut through the bars as you don't have a strap. They are a hollow tube with a spring down the inside so, very easy. Just be careful with the case.

It's up to you but, when you have the watch serviced, the watchmaker will cut the bars, clean the case, polish the crystal for you. If you want to be more involved, be careful with the polywatch to not get it on the case.

It looks like a classic manual wind SM600 and will be a very nice memento. I hope you get it sorted and enjoy it - the other two are pretty sharp as well馃憤.

Cheers, Chris
 
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Agree with all the above. If you鈥檙e itchy to get a strap on it and wear it around a little, either throw a nato on it, or saturate the bars with WD40 and they will probably spring back to life (pardon the pun). But get them off and put in a fresh set of spring bars.

As it hasn鈥檛 been run in 40 years, the oils inside are dried out for sure- don鈥檛 wear it much until it gets a freshening up.
Absolutely do not take this to Omega to get serviced. They will change out parts you don鈥檛 want changed. Take it to an independent watchmaker who knows how to work with vintage watches.
 
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Case is very fragile. I never used polywatch for watch cases. only for plexi.

Thanks for the advice Shabbaz. I was referring to using polywatch for the crystal, but good to know I should be careful about getting it on the case as well.
 
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Those bolt action springbars can be a pain so, I'd just replace them.

You can use anything that you have (like those nippers) or wire cutters to cut through the bars as you don't have a strap. They are a hollow tube with a spring down the inside so, very easy. Just be careful with the case.

It's up to you but, when you have the watch serviced, the watchmaker will cut the bars, clean the case, polish the crystal for you. If you want to be more involved, be careful with the polywatch to not get it on the case.

It looks like a classic manual wind SM600 and will be a very nice memento. I hope you get it sorted and enjoy it - the other two are pretty sharp as well馃憤.

Cheers, Chris

Thanks for that Chris! Would you happen to know the general production dates for this model (short of getting the case back off)?

You're right, I'm keen to get more involved in the process although following some advice here, it might be best to leave the whole thing to a watchmaker so I can enjoy it into the future.
 
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Absolutely do not take this to Omega to get serviced.

Thanks for the advice, I've heard this from other areas as well. I'd imagine they'd replace the dial and hands at least, non-tritium versions? Even though the tritium plots seem to have lost charge ages ago, it still sounds like a good way to lose the original character of the watch 馃憥
 
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Thanks for that Chris! Would you happen to know the general production dates for this model (short of getting the case back off)?

You're right, I'm keen to get more involved in the process although following some advice here, it might be best to leave the whole thing to a watchmaker so I can enjoy it into the future.
It might be a 135.011 but, I'm not the best at picking out models. It will be written in the case back. If I'm right, it would have a calibre 601 probably, and these are top quality movements. I'd expect it to be late sixties with that design and Seamasrer font.

Yes, I'd give it to a watchmaker but, easy for me to say as that's what I am... I can understand you wanting to be involved but, it's easy to screw things up so, I'd limit yourself to "outside the case" - polywatch on the crystal, case cleaning, straps and so on.

I would not advise sending it to Omega based on comments here, or anyone not used to working on vintage watches.

Cheers, Chris
 
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It might be a 135.011 but, I'm not the best at picking out models. It will be written in the case back. If I'm right, it would have a calibre 601 probably, and these are top quality movements. I'd expect it to be late sixties with that design and Seamasrer font.

Yes, I'd give it to a watchmaker but, easy for me to say as that's what I am... I can understand you wanting to be involved but, it's easy to screw things up so, I'd limit yourself to "outside the case" - polywatch on the crystal, case cleaning, straps and so on.

I would not advise sending it to Omega based on comments here, or anyone not used to working on vintage watches.

Cheers, Chris

Thanks for the advice Chris! I'll give you an update once I've got the caseback off.
 
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Thanks to everyone for your time and advice to this vintage novice.

Based on the comments I intend to leave the Seamaster 600 alone until it can get the full treatment from an independent watchmaker. While I've tinkered with watches before, I'd best trust a professional to preserve this watch for now and generations to come.

I'll be sure to post some before and after pics as things unfold.

Cheers, Mark
 
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Thought I'd give a brief update - my grandfather's 135.011 was given a sympathetic service by a repairer with an omega parts account and since returned to me. Only needed a new hesalite and crown, and has kept perfect time since. It's my oldest, smallest, and only gold watch, but I'm wearing it right now and loving it.

 
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Oh and by the way @Shabbaz - the repairer dealt with the springbars while I was there, and yes he did use exactly these...