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  1. Gasalb1979 Sep 25, 2018

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    Hello everybody
    Recently I was asked for a valuation of a 14k gold chrono. So first I opened the case to have a look for the reference and, that seems unusual to me. It is 14590066 and then a 5 above. I searched on the omega vintage website but no luck. Dial is repainted so I was searching for a pictures of the genuine one. Also any information you may have on this model will be helpful.
     
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  2. No Mercy Sep 25, 2018

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    You cant find this ref anywhere because the case is fake.
     
  3. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 25, 2018

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    Pictures of the case?
     
  4. Gasalb1979 Sep 25, 2018

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    Fake solid gold chronograp
    Fake solid gold chronograph case??? That's sounds new to me:eek:
     
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  5. No Mercy Sep 25, 2018

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    Look at those hallmarks my friend.
    And the circular graining (stippling) overlapped to lathe graining -> A poorly made fake case.
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  6. Gasalb1979 Sep 25, 2018

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    Still not realising what's wrong ...::facepalm1::
     
  7. No Mercy Sep 25, 2018

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    Do you see that the lathe graining overlap the Helvetia hallmark?
     
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  8. Gasalb1979 Sep 25, 2018

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    Yes I can see it. Why should this be a sign of a fake case?
     
  9. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 25, 2018

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    I’m reserving judgment... movement is circa @1977.

    It’s a C case Chrono. Dial has some flags... but nothing damning. I’ll admit I can’t find a similar case.
     
  10. Lucasssssss Sep 26, 2018

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  11. dennisthemenace Hey, he asked for it! Sep 26, 2018

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    Which is one digit away from the OP watch's movement.
     
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  12. padders Oooo subtitles! Sep 26, 2018

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    I don't have that as a fake, the marks are far too good. I don't particularly like it and the running second sundial screams redial to me so I wouldn't be bidding at any price but it does look mostly legit for a mid 1970s uncommon piece.
     
  13. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 26, 2018

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    Interesting that both are marked T Swiss T but both are sans tritium.

    Neat pieces. I’m curious the story behind them.
     
  14. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Sep 26, 2018

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    So these pieces seem to be ref 145.016, however the hallmarks and finishing inside the cases are highly suspect. The perlage in particular is just plain wrong, having been applied in a haphazard vertical pattern rather than in a proper circular pattern. I highly doubt they are genuine Omega cases or even 18K. Should have a hippocampus as well.

    A genuine 145.016 case for reference.

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  15. Gasalb1979 Sep 26, 2018

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    Seems that the 145.016 is slightly different. It is a c-shape case rather than the cushion short lugs of the suspected one. In my opinion the key is: does that reference exists or don't. ???
     
  16. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 26, 2018

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    Need to pull an extract.

    If 2 pieces have sequential numbers... leads me to believe they are legit. The movement is not fake.
     
  17. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Sep 26, 2018

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    Which is why I said "seem to be", because like the fake 18K Constellation dog-leg cases don't get details quite right, these aren't quite right either. The way the pushers stick way out and the inelegant notches for them, these are very unlike Omega. Too many things don't add up.
     
  18. Gasalb1979 Sep 26, 2018

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    The 176.007 has quite similar case shape
     
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  19. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Sep 26, 2018

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    The case posted by @X350 XJR was made by Nouvelle Piquerez SA (La Chaux-de-Fonds), the cases posted by the OP and @Lucasssssss were made by Manufacture Favre & Perret SA (Bassecourt).

    Would Omega have commissioned two different makers for such limited runs?

    Just another mystery.
     
  20. Gasalb1979 Sep 27, 2018

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    Yes and seems that other solid gold cases from 70' of the same producer share the same hallmarks and features.
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/what-do-you-think-about-this-ug-ultra-slim-pocket-watch.48956/