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Incoming "Watchco" Seamaster 300

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If you could find a donor 289 Ford motor and order all the Ford service parts and build a 1965 Mustang for 1/4 the price of a vintage wouldn't you?
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This is actually a pretty good analogy. When the factory does this itself and calls the cars ‘Recreation’, ‘Continuation’ or ‘Sanction 2’ or whatever a la Aston Martin or Jaguar it’s generally looked upon favourably, but when a bloke in a shed puts together a kit car it’s generally called a replica or modified car and sometimes seen in a rather less glowing light. I wonder if some view ‘Watchcos’ like the former (which is a little too rose tinted IMO) and some view them as the latter (which is maybe too harsh on the ones put together properly). I think it should be born in mind that not all ‘Watchcos’ are equal, which is where some of the negativity comes in.
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(i.e. most of the movement) are not designated to a specific single watch from the moment that they begin fabrication (nor is this done in any mass produced product-part of any type, ever, really).

No, not "from the moment they start fabrication" - no one is saying that. But a specific serial number movement, with the correct design parameters (correct hand heights, colour of date indicator, and shape of date indicator) are assigned to a specific case type.

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To the other point around Omega refusing to provide extracts when movements don't match the cases - I've heard and read of varying degrees of accuracy to which omega do this... I have no personal experience here, but it seems some people (many) disagree, as to whether or not they have records down to 1-for-1 matches, or if it is largely groups/batches/estimates.

I don't think the fact they tie it down to a specific serial number is in question. There are people here who are very familiar with the process and the staff who does the work, and they have confirmed that. There are reports from people having extracts denied on here almost every week because the case number and serial number don't match. Here's one posted last Friday by a member here:

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Regardless, I think I'm just trying to make the point, if this is the case - if you replace every single other part except the part the serial number sits on, they then will give you an extract.... and attempting to defend the OP.

Sure they will, but that's not relevant here. In this case you don't have a serial numbered part (the wheel train bridge by the way) that is "original" to a Seamaster 300, because the movement came from another model, like a Geneve...
 
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There's nothing to argue about, franken describes a bastardized watch, not one built to factory spec and indistinguishable from one restored by Omega.

According to your definition of franken...but this is not a universally accepted definition.
 
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So perfect - proves the point that there is no universally agreed upon definition of frankenwatch.
 
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It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
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So perfect - proves the point that there is no universally agreed upon definition of frankenwatch.
 
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It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.

Is "is" a franken-word?
 
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At the end of the day does it matter provided the purchaser/owner is happy and gets enjoyment? Interesting comments though!
 
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Can someone please invent a word without negative connotations to describe a watch put together with no intent to deceive, and then we will all be happy.

Hang on - I've thought of one! How about calling it a "Watchco"? Er.......anyone?
 
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Can someone please invent a word without negative connotations to describe a watch put together with no intent to deceive, and then we will all be happy.

Hang on - I've thought of one! How about calling it a "Watchco"? Er.......anyone?

And when ones asks "What is a Watchco?", then I would propose that we call it a conversion. One model converted to another.
 
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In the case of the Perth , Australia (preferred imho) LewiswatchCo versions . As previously mentioned by @gostang9 " LewCo ". They are just excellent.
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I love my Adam Lewis SM300. Tough as nails down to 80' on several occasions. I wear mine 24/7.
 
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Hi Al

Sorry to drag you back into all this, but my "Watchco" had been running at ca. -7spd. I only wear it sporadically, but it has now degenerated to ca. -23spd. I've tried demagnetising without any result, so I'm guessing that it needs a service. I wondered whether you're currently available and what a movement service on this would likely run to.

Cheers!

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I think this should be a direct message inquiry, no?
 
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Especially on an “incoming” post. Very rude.
I very much agree with this, If you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all, Why even waste your time in this thread its not for you. As long as the watch is not being misrepresent in a sale then who cares
 
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