I'm dumbfounded. How in the hell does Seiko pull it off?

strick9

Wow a nest of asshole snakes who talk like they know what they are talking about and one apparently changes batteries at a kiosk in a mall

Uniqez

P.S. I gotta run to the mall, replace some batteries in my watches...

strick9

Troll how am I a troll for presenting fact and I pulled them right from Seiko website because it's obvious you don't do facts unless they come out of your typing. what I read in here is a bunch of watch snobs who refuse Facts. Archer River paradise foo2ramma you to seem to be the main instigators here. Most of the members here have multiple collections and don't like watch snobs running them down. Now that seems to be more of a troll like activity than posting facts from a website. If you can't keep having a discussion with people without running down their collections while letting everyone know of your superior knowledge I take it Al is a watchmaker from statements cool backup your statements with the truth. So that being said you can end this knowing I'm no troll and yes If it looks like an asshole and acts like an asshole it's an asshole you should report me

strick9

So that being said you can end this knowing I'm no troll and yes If it looks like an asshole and acts like an asshole it's an asshole you should report me

strick9

Most of the members here have multiple collections and don't like watch snobs running them down.

strick9

I take it Al is a watchmaker from statements cool backup your statements with the truth.

gatorcpa

That actually has been done.

I think everyone needs a time-out in neutral corners.
gatorcpa

Archer

...
I've found the manual wind high beat movements use what I would call stronger than normal mainsprings - when you are trying to get the balance to oscillate at 36,000 vph, it takes a lot more energy than with a lower beat rate. In the high beat Seikos I've serviced, this has translated into unusual wear like the pallet fork above. Now all watch movements will wear if not serviced, and one could argue that the wear above is due to lack of service. But here is a pinion for the same movement that shows excessive wear on the pinions leaves (teeth) and these are parts that are not lubricated, so this is not the result of failed lubrication, but heavy loads:

Now I'm pretty obsessive about inspecting parts for wear, so there's a chance some watchmakers might miss this kind of wear, but for me these parts should be replaced. Tried ordering, was given back-order status, and then months later final word came back that they could not supply them.

So in summary, quirky movements, some prone to excessive wear, parts are hard to get - for many that would eliminate them from consideration, but it's up to the individual.
..., Al

dscoogs

Al,

Is it the case with the newer GS Automatic Hi-Beat? I have been thinking about a Grand Seiko Hi-Beat 36000 GMT SBGJ227 Peacock, and from what I read (but do not necessarily really understand) there has been some improvement in design and material to reduce wear and tear.

Thank you,
dscoogs

redpcar

Unfortunately, a Vulcan would never own a Jag. Illogical. That said, in his photo, he is wearing a hat potentially hiding his pointy ears 😉

cicindela

OMG, don't tell me this is quartz too 😲