If you were to start a collection from 0.

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I know what I like and have my opinion, the thread intention is to know members opinions ,likes and experience.
Not wise to rely on a forums opinion to engage in buying watches as investment.
Also Im not assuming is obligatory or sort to have a collection, obviously I'm directing at the ones who are related.
Sadly there are folks out there who seem to view watches as an investment and come here for free advice, estimates, benchmarks or to pump prices. Then there are the blog boosters. Watches For the most part, are a terrible investment. My advice, read a bit, look at your lifestyle and buy a watch that is an all rounder (Sports watch) . Then you can go from there. Learn about the brands and their heritage. You will either fall down the bunny hole like many of us, or be content.
 
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18 hour reserve
Is still only 18 hours.

It will only get better as they add more health features. I'm waiting on blood pressure. I wonder why Apple doesn't release a urine test feature that you can check your health every morning by pissing in it? Perhaps an Apple toilet?
 
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Sadly there are folks out there who seem to view watches as an investment and come here for free advice, estimates, benchmarks or to pump prices. Then there are the blog boosters. Watches For the most part, are a terrible investment. My advice, read a bit, look at your lifestyle and buy a watch that is an all rounder (Sports watch) . Then you can go from there. Learn about the brands and their heritage. You will either fall down the bunny hole like many of us, or be content.
There are but not my case. I just wanted to start a friendly discussion and exchange of ideas, thoughts etc. The post you tagged was directed to the ones that were hostil and rude with no need and less if they don't know intentions or thoughts.
 
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There are but not my case. I just wanted to start a friendly discussion and exchange of ideas, thoughts etc. The post you tagged was directed to the ones that were hostil and rude with no need and less if they don't know intentions or thoughts.
Just trying to provide context. I don’t condone the behavior.
 
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It will only get better as they add more health features. I'm waiting on blood pressure. I wonder why Apple doesn't release a urine test feature that you can check your health every morning by pissing in it? Perhaps an Apple toilet?
My iPhone knows too much about me already. I don’t need an Apple watch to help it along. My Omegas are more attractive on the wrist and they mind their own business.
 
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My iPhone knows too much about me already. I don’t need an Apple watch to help it along. My Omegas are more attractive on the wrist and they mind their own business.
Another way to think about it is that it's like having a doctor strapped to your wrist 24/7 for only $400 every two to three years. As the watch continues to advance it will someday be able to detect diseases early, far better than your annual physical. A mechanical watch will never be able to go beyond date/time. Since most people only strap on one 'watch' it's not too much of a stretch to see that mechanical watches days are numbered. The only way to prevent the mechanical watch market from collapse is to get people used to the idea of wearing two watches, with the Apple watch on the other wrist. How likely is that?
 
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Another way to think about it is that it's like having a doctor strapped to your wrist 24/7 for only $400 every two to three years. As the watch continues to advance it will someday be able to detect diseases early, far better than your annual physical. A mechanical watch will never be able to go beyond date/time. Since most people only strap on one 'watch' it's not too much of a stretch to see that mechanical watches days are numbered. The only way to prevent the mechanical watch market from collapse is to get people used to the idea of wearing two watches, with the Apple watch on the other wrist. How likely is that?
While I can appreciate the technology that the Apple Watch offers in many applications, including medical technology, I think that it’s a stretch to say that the days of mechanical watches are numbered. The Apple Watch is not jewelry, it has no cachet, and it’s destined for the landfill every 5 years or so if not less. Several of my Omegas are 60 years old and still keep time within a few seconds per day. Will your Apple Watch age as well as some of my Omegas shown below? So you tell me which is the better buy. I’ve owned numerous iPhone models over the years. They have all told the time and had both a stopwatch and an alarm feature. That didn’t stop me from acquiring mechanical watches during the same period of time. As an older lawyer, it’s interesting to me to see what young lawyers wear in court. All of them have iPhones. Most of them wear Swiss watches. Wearing an Apple Watch may convey an appreciation for and mastery of technology, but it doesn’t do much to convey an image of achievement, success and good taste.
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While I can appreciate the technology that the Apple Watch offers in many applications, including medical technology, I think that it’s a stretch to say that the days of mechanical watches are numbered. The Apple Watch is not jewelry, it has no cache, and it’s destined for the landfill every 5 years or so if not less. I’ve owned numerous iPhone models over the years. They have all told the time and had both a stopwatch and an alarm feature. That didn’t stop me from acquiring mechanical watches during the same period of time. As an older lawyer, it’s interesting to me to see what young lawyers wear in court. All of them have iPhones. Most of them wear Swiss watches. Wearing an Apple Watch may convey an appreciation for and mastery of technology. It doesn’t do much to convey an image of achievement, success or good taste.
I think you've missed the gist of what I wanted to convey. Mainly, that if you believe as I do that most people would only wear one device on their wrist and that a person's health means much more than some status bauble on their wrist (there are always exceptions), then you would easily come to the same conclusion. There's a tipping point for everyone. The Apple watch might not have sufficient medical diagnostic capability currently for you to make the leap, but at some point, it will.

You see, the Apple Watch is not a watch at all. It's a trojan horse mobile medical device disguised as a watch. Someday, it will be able to detect things like diabetes, cancer, and other diseases. They're starting with cardiovascular disease. Why would anyone risk their health by not having an Apple Watch strapped to their wrists as much as possible? And if they do have an Apple Watch strapped to their wrists all the time, when will they have time/room for a lowly mechanical watch?

In accordance with Moore's Law, the computing power of that Watch is doubling every 18 months. There's no reason to doubt that it will be capable of wonderful things in the future. I can see Apple selling all sorts of medical peripherals to pair with the Apple Watch in the future such as blood and urine devices. It saves you a trip to the doctor's office and offers an early diagnosis that could potentially save your own life. That's priceless.

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Respectfully, I don’t think that I’ve missed your point at all. I simply disagree with it. What makes you think that there won’t be similar medical applications for the iPhone and its competition (there already are) and that folks won’t opt to use those while still strapping on their Swiss watches? Not really that far fetched a scenario, is it?
 
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Respectfully, I don’t think that I’ve missed your point at all. I simply disagree with it. What makes you think that there won’t be similar medical applications for the iPhone and its competition (there already are) and that folks won’t opt to use those while still strapping on their Swiss watches? Not really that far fetched a scenario, is it?
It's unlikely because they want to sell Apple Watches.
 
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Another way to think about it is that it's like having a doctor strapped to your wrist 24/7 for only $400 every two to three years. As the watch continues to advance it will someday be able to detect diseases early, far better than your annual physical. A mechanical watch will never be able to go beyond date/time. Since most people only strap on one 'watch' it's not too much of a stretch to see that mechanical watches days are numbered. The only way to prevent the mechanical watch market from collapse is to get people used to the idea of wearing two watches, with the Apple watch on the other wrist. How likely is that?

That's all fair but I'm not sure the smart watch really needs to be a watch long term. It's perfectly plausible that it will get even smaller and be entirely controlled through your phone (which probably isn't going away until we're doing mid-air Minority Report holographic UI), and at that point there is other potential surface area on the body for it to go. Or if it were thin enough people might just wear it on the same wrist as their "jewelry" watch, the way some people wear those man beads and leather strap things today, or simply on the opposite wrist without looking like a tool.
 
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It's unlikely because they want to sell Apple Watches.
How does that stop third party medical apps and devices for the iPhone?
 
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Comparison between a fitness watch and a mechanical watch is like a comparison between apples and oranges!
 
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That's all fair but I'm not sure the smart watch really needs to be a watch long term. It's perfectly plausible that it will get even smaller and be entirely controlled through your phone (which probably isn't going away until we're doing mid-air Minority Report holographic UI), and at that point there is other potential surface area on the body for it to go. Or if it were thin enough people might just wear it on the same wrist as their "jewelry" watch, the way some people wear those man beads and leather strap things today, or simply on the opposite wrist without looking like a tool.
A phone will always be a phone just like a watch will always be a watch. What I mean is that the form factor is optimized for its intended purpose. For example, a watch could be used as a phone but then you would have problems like surfing the net or using a reading app. The screen is too small to do anything other than simple tasks. Conversely, a phone has the larger screen to do many of those things but it's not small enough like a watch to easily go with you everywhere. A watch is strapped to your wrist so you have it wherever you go. That is why we still have iPads and desktops, etc. Each is optimized for its intended purpose. I think Jobs described it as a truck vs car. Both have its intended uses.

How does that stop third party medical apps and devices for the iPhone?
It doesn't but there are some barriers. Apple has the resources to do it. Also, would you really trust your data to companies like Google where you are their product? Also, please read above concerning form factor.

Comparison between a fitness watch and a mechanical watch is like a comparison between apples and oranges!
Yes it is. The mechanical watch loses. This is not like the '70s and '80s where quartz almost killed the mechanical watch. Unlike quartz, which is a compliment to the mechanical watch, the Apple Watch is a substitute. As in the Highlander, there can only be one. This is going to be a fight to the death between computers strapped to your wrists, like the Apple Watch and the lowly mechanical watch.

It's going to be like the camera market. First, the film cameras lost, and then the SLR and other P and S cameras. I see the mechanical watch market kind of like that. First, all of the smaller manufacturers go out of business, then the larger established players like Patek and Rolex go the way of Leica. Making increasingly more expensive products catered to an ever more 'exclusive' (an euphemism for dumb) market. I always like to joke that one day Leica will make $50,000 cameras to sell to their 1,000 suckers, er, I mean customers. That's one of the reasons I think that Rolex is reducing production. It's trying to stay ahead of this curve. It's not a coincidence that this started in 2015 when the Apple Watch was introduced. But that's another topic.
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A phone will always be a phone just like a watch will always be a watch. What I mean is that the form factor is optimized for its intended purpose. For example, a watch could be used as a phone but then you would have problems like surfing the net or using a reading app. The screen is too small to do anything other than simple tasks. Conversely, a phone has the larger screen to do many of those things but it's not small enough like a watch to easily go with you everywhere. A watch is strapped to your wrist so you have it wherever you go. That is why we still have iPads and desktops, etc. Each is optimized for its intended purpose. I think Jobs described it as a truck vs car. Both have its intended uses.

I am not saying that because we have phones we do not need wearable health tracking devices. I am saying that because we have phones, and as the technology inevitably miniaturizes, health tracking devices do not specifically need to be watches with little screens that you strap to your wrist. Rings, necklaces, bracelets, ankle bracelets, etc can all potentially do the job just as well.
 
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To me, a collection has a theme. What many here call a “collection” is just a bunch of watches we like to wear and have bought over time. So, to answer your question, I will give you some collection ideas where you could accumulate quite a few watches (I think) for the $8000 limit. Then ideas for a bunch (or a couple) of watches you could wear daily for years to come.

True Collections with a Theme:

1. Watches of the Vietnam War: there were lots of different styles available in the PX that American servicemen bought and wore. Most can be found for under $1000k: Glycine Airman, Ollech & Wajs Early Bird, Zodiac Sea Wolf, Seiko 6105-8000, Benrus field watch, etc.

2. Watches worn in space: of course there is the Speedmaster, but there are dozens of other brands. Go even further and limit it to watches worn on the moon, and there are more than the Speedmaster. Getting more than a one or two would probably blow your budget, though.

3. Watches worn by James Bond in the movies: lots of choices here, some Omega, but also Breitling, Seiko, and even Rolex.

Lots of other ideas there, but you see what I mean by a “collection”.

Watches to wear that don’t really have a theme:

If you just want a variety of watches to wear, get an Oris diver, a Longines dress watch, a Valjoux 7750 Chronograph (any brand), a Seiko diver for a beater, and then treat yourself to a nice vacation with the residual.

Or, if you want to focus on Omega watches, buy a used Speedmaster and a new Seamaster 300m and call it a day.

I understand, but I disagree a bit. If I were to buy a bunch of Vietnam era military watches, that would be a cool collection. But if I did it because of your suggestion, it wouldn't be my collection.

I enjoy the discussion, “if you were to buy your first..,” but the premise of seriously suggesting a watch for someone else to enjoy seems futile.
 
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If you were to start a collection from zero. What watches under $8k you will have, brands, styles materials or else?

Ok. If I lost all my watches in a fire and had an $8000 limit per watch from my insurance company?

I might start by repeating some of my errors. I have a Rolex Milgauss that I wouldnt buy now, but I really wanted some years ago.

I would buy some that I settled. For personal reasons, I really wanted an Oris Carl Brashear. But it didn't seem worth it, so I bought a watch that I thought offered more value.

And I would choose a theme. For me, I am a materials scientist, and innovative use if materials would be on top of my list

silicon, titanium, bronze, sapphire, LiquidMetal, ceramic, DLC. Many choices
 
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Mainly, that if you believe as I do that most people would only wear one device on their wrist

IMO, wearing smart devices on the wrist is just a transition between pocket-computers (aka phones) and implants.

"It's hard to make predictions, especially about the future." 😁
 
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I would suggest a Datejust 36 and Seiko Skx. Two that I could see myself keeping forever as my only pair or existing purposely as part of a bigger collection later.