I don't understand the recent Rolex SS craze/shortage. What am I missing?

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Although I knew it was an issue, until confronted with it in person part of didn't think it was true, I naively thought I could place an order, waiting several months for sure, but at least get one, also, it's not like I was looking for a Sub or Daytona but a 36mm OP. Go figure...... 🙄
 
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Although I knew it was an issue, until confronted with it in person part of didn't think it was true, I naively thought I could place an order, waiting several months for sure, but at least get one, also, it's not like I was looking for a Sub or Daytona but a 36mm OP. Go figure...... 🙄
to be honest - it was intersting to see that from time to time there are brand new Daytonas arriving in my market (meaning well known second hand dealers), while ADs closed their lists several years ago. I was rather naive thinking that those are flipped to these dealers by regular/real people who patiently waited for years... but the explanation is so easy and simple... and of course in what world would the AD want to loose all of that additional margin?
 
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I had a very similar experience. One AD near me outright acknowledged that while they don't participate in the practice 🙄 other ADs sell to known resellers in exchange for a certain percentage of grey market profits.

That was him trying to set you up to say "if you allocate me one I will give you 50% of the resale profits" 😗
 
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Although I knew it was an issue, until confronted with it in person part of didn't think it was true, I naively thought I could place an order, waiting several months for sure, but at least get one, also, it's not like I was looking for a Sub or Daytona but a 36mm OP. Go figure...... 🙄
@MTROIS had posted a video earlier in this thread where the presenter said that Rolex were reputedly making over a million watches a year and yet you can't even get a simple 3 hand watch like an OP from an AD. So where have they all gone? He slammed their "greedy" business practices.
 
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@MTROIS had posted a video earlier in this thread where the presenter said that Rolex were reputedly making over a million watches a year and yet you can't even get a simple 3 hand watch like an OP from an AD. So where have they all gone? He slammed their "greedy" business practices.
I got talking watches to the sales guy in the local AD, at the end he had the decency to be embarrassed by the issue, as he said, I was a local man, and a 'watch guy', his words, he said the guy buying the 16 watches was a Saudi, which is not local to the south or Ireland at all...... Money talks and mine wasn't talking loud enough.
 
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I got talking watches to the sales guy in the local AD, at the end he had the decency to be embarrassed by the issue, as he said, I was a local man, and a 'watch guy', his words, he said the guy buying the 16 watches was a Saudi, which is not local to the south or Ireland at all...... Money talks and mine wasn't talking loud enough.
Haha. Yes, I think you need to own an oil well before your money starts to talk at a Rolex boutique or AD.

My wife and I were having a banter about what we would do with the money if we won the lottery as she had bought a ticket for a rollover week. She said I'd be able to get all the Rolex models I wanted, even if I had to pay grey market prices. I said to her I didn't want to feed the flippers and be part of the "problem". So that would mean essentially doing what that Saudi guy did: buying a bunch of watches or jewellery that I didn't really want just so I can get a GMT at retail.
 
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Toilet Paper Syndrome is the some as Rolex Syndrome.
Once people THINK something is in short supply they WANT it even MORE.
Gentlemen they have engineered the perfect sales environment for people to hoard their product.
 
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Toilet Paper Syndrome is the some as Rolex Syndrome.

When two worlds collide...



It goes to a...

 
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When two worlds collide...



It goes to a...

Now I've seen everything. Do I need to buy 6 rolls of Sorbent before I'm allowed to buy one roll of Rolex at retail? 😁
 
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I'm surprised the store actually had some on display.

Not for wiping with...err...I mean purchase...
 
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Toilet Paper Syndrome is the some as Rolex Syndrome.
Once people THINK something is in short supply they WANT it even MORE.
Gentlemen they have engineered the perfect sales environment for people to hoard their product.

They did that years ago this isnt news
 
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I recently come across this article on the Veblen effects in the luxury watch market. Rolex has certainly achieved this alternative curve and the article helps explain this thread title. And I wonder if Omega has recently started to alter it’s business approach of no more limited editions, general price increases and some newly introduced very high priced watches in an attempt to transition from the textbook supply/ demand and to the Veblen effect equilibria.

Here is the link to the article:
https://www.horolonomics.com/2021/11/highway-to-jomazone.html

And below is part of the leading paragraph before the writer dives into the economic explanation:

“Most markets follow the law of demand: as price goes up, the quantity demanded of a product declines. As I've discussed previously, luxury markets are different. They typically "break the law" when it comes to demand: when price increases, people may actually want the product even more. We refer to this as a Veblen effect, after Norwegian-American economist Thorstein Veblen. There are many reasons why this might happen. Veblen, himself, might have attributed it to "conspicuous consumption." A high-priced object could confer social status on an individual, and the higher the price the bigger the status "halo." There is also the possibility that a high price today could signal an even higher price tomorrow (more formally, there may be positive serial correlation in prices). In this case, as price increases, speculators may be drawn to a product in anticipation of a payout from the future increase in prices. You can also think of this as the "siren song" of potential capital gains.”
 
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I recently come across this article on the Veblen effects in the luxury watch market. Rolex has certainly achieved this alternative curve and the article helps explain this thread title. And I wonder if Omega has recently started to alter it’s business approach of no more limited editions, general price increases and some newly introduced very high priced watches in an attempt to transition from the textbook supply/ demand and to the Veblen effect equilibria.

Here is the link to the article:
https://www.horolonomics.com/2021/11/highway-to-jomazone.html

And below is part of the leading paragraph before the writer dives into the economic explanation:

“Most markets follow the law of demand: as price goes up, the quantity demanded of a product declines. As I've discussed previously, luxury markets are different. They typically "break the law" when it comes to demand: when price increases, people may actually want the product even more. We refer to this as a Veblen effect, after Norwegian-American economist Thorstein Veblen. There are many reasons why this might happen. Veblen, himself, might have attributed it to "conspicuous consumption." A high-priced object could confer social status on an individual, and the higher the price the bigger the status "halo." There is also the possibility that a high price today could signal an even higher price tomorrow (more formally, there may be positive serial correlation in prices). In this case, as price increases, speculators may be drawn to a product in anticipation of a payout from the future increase in prices. You can also think of this as the "siren song" of potential capital gains.”

Self-fulfilling prophecy applied to luxury items: it works until everyone believes it's working.
 
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this article on the Veblen effects in the luxury watch market

Yet, for years now (this thread started 3yrs ago, and wasn’t novel back then):

One side of room: but how!? Why?! Mad!! They’re doing this on purpose!!

Other side: well yeah, of course

One side of room: but how!? Why?! Mad!! They’re doing this on purpose!!

Other side: well yeah, of course

One side of room: but how!? Why?! Mad!! They’re doing this on purpose!!

Other side: well yeah, of course
 
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Yet, for years now (this thread started 3yrs ago, and wasn’t novel back then):

One side of room: but how!? Why?! Mad!! They’re doing this on purpose!!

Other side: well yeah, of course

One side of room: but how!? Why?! Mad!! They’re doing this on purpose!!

Other side: well yeah, of course

One side of room: but how!? Why?! Mad!! They’re doing this on purpose!!

Other side: well yeah, of course

^^^This! Hahahaha

I was just having the same thought rediscovering this thread again today for the 42nd time.
 
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funny to see this thread pop up again. . as i see now that SS rolexes are now 50k!! and PM daytonas which sat at msrp for a decade have basically doubled in a month

the world has well and truly lost its mind
 
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I enjoyed watching this video from Alex, Watchadvisor channel, as it is not too often that one of these YouTubers calls the R-system out.
For the German speakers amongst ourselves, his rendition of the snotty Rolex AD salesman using a Viennese accent around the 11’55” mark of the video made me especially laugh. 😁
Enjoy! ::stirthepot::

I’m imagining that the Rolex sales person sounded like Serge …
 
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I’ve been trying to buy an Oyster Perpetual for my wife for the last 2 years. I absolutely refuse to go to the grey market. We have 3 ADs here in Montreal. I went through their websites and contacted them with my request via their contact forms. This is what I received in response. One of them, borderline arrogant. The third AD didn’t even bother responding.

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i decided to show up in person to the 2 AD that replied. I was shocked to see about 1000 sq/ft of Rolex EMPTY display cases. It sincerely looked like the business was closing and they had moved out all the stock out. Chateau d’Ivoire, I still wonder how these arrogant p**ces are still in business, wouldn’t even discuss the possibility of ordering a watch. Only Birk’s created a “profile” and noted my request. They even went so far as to tell me they would call if a watch becomes available.

Don’t tell me running a jewelry store like this, smack in downtown Montreal, is tenable with NO stock? The attitude of the 2 out of 3 dealers speaks volumes. Do you think they run a business, carrying the Rolex brand, with NO inventory for NO money? It stinks to high hell.
 
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Do you think they run a business, carrying the Rolex brand, with NO inventory for NO money? It stinks to high hell.
Educated guess ; they are in the safe waiting for VIP's and GD's.