i actually need a watch

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Longine with cross hair seconds would be a good idea.
JLC and GP also made some which you can find 800 euros
 
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It’s because you have never been in one. I work in a prison and feel less safe walking to my car than at work.

Clients beating up their lawyers in the visit room is just TV stuff.

EDIT: grammar and spelling (must have been drunk!)
You're right, I haven't. But my wife, a forensic psychiatrist (yes, a real one) visits them regularly. And I assure you that from the stories I hear, prison is no place to take your valuables, no matter how low you perceive the risk. But hey, who am I to argue! Have another drink.
 
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If it’s going to be a tool for timekeeping, get a chronograph. Btw if you raised 3 boys and were there for them your more of a man than any manly man.
 
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sometimes the judge says "20 minutes for voir dire". its nice to have a watch on to keep track without looking at the wall clock.

3 boys. one engineer wears a seiko 5.
the other 2 are watchless snd unintrigued by law.
 
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The OP’s posts caused me to ask what type of watches do I find “manly” and the answer for me is simple because many of my watches are 40mm-42mm tool watches such as chronographs (esp. Speedmaster) and dive watches, in steel cases, and they are what I consider to be “manly”. There are other more important reasons why I like them but if I reflect on this, these are the watches that convey a sense of "manliness" due to their size, complications and aesthetics.

The OP wants his watch to project an air of "manliness" and prefers gold, vintage and Omega. Smallish (35mm) gold vintage watches are not manly according to my own personal definition but they do communicate to me tradition, stability & reliability, discrete authority, elegance and sophistication. These are all very positive attributes that I would describe as “gentlemanly”.

So, does the OP actually need 2 watches or what covers both manly and gentlemanly? TBH, probably asking for myself too!
 
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Why does the omega specifically, and old gold watches generally, appeal to me?It’s complicated, and I’ve been really thinking about it.They remind me of manliness, something I feel I lack.I am not confident like my dad was in being a man.I don’t think it ever was a question for my dad.He just was a man.Me, I don’t know.Objectively, I seem to have the qualifications.Im fairly successful, I’ve raised 3 males who are all doing well, I am not physically weak, I can speak up when necessary, I’ve been married a quarter century.But I still have this general feeling that somehow, I’m not actually a real man, just some sort of peripheral hanger on or pretender.Old watches like this remind me of a time when men were men by virtue of their very nature and didn’t think much about the issue. Of course, guys like my dad didn’t think much about their stuff, they just bought it and wore it and got about the business of being men, I think, although he had other anxieties or insecurities; it was not an idyllic time. It also goes to the feeling like I have nothing I value, that everything is temporary and crappy.I have worn a nomos Weiss for quite a while, which is nice and clean and perfect in its way, and which is certainly not disposable, but doesn’t feel like an heirloom, or perhaps its more like a diamond, shinier than me, than a personal possession.I’m quite sure my dad, and my grandfather, and the long line of dudes before them, would probably find my ruminations quite insane, but then again, if I were privy to the thoughts inside their head, I’d probably find those quite insane too, in my defense, such as it is. On paper, I am way more successful than any of the past generations, and there’s nothing in particular I can point to that would necessarily disqualify me from the Man Club.Some of these insecurities are displaced on watch selection, which is better than, saying, having inflicted them on my kids, who, oddly, are orders of magnitude more secure, less neurotic and generally less odd than I am, the result which puzzles me every time I speak with them.Where did these calm creatures come from?Why do they not worry about the crap I worry about, why, indeed do they barely worry at all, when compared to the Old man.
It is also a bit unclear to me the prices of omega relatve to, say eternal watches, which seem much lower priced for similar items. Still, I like omega for some reason.

This took me by surprise a bit, and I don't think I can empathize with the specifics (e.g. that gold Omega watches are "manly"), but that really doesn't matter. The key takeaway for me is that this is an emotional purchase for you, which is a good thing because you actually do know what you want. You are amongst people who are passionate about watches, and while we all have different tastes, we can respect each others preferences. So I can give you the following advice with a high level of confidence: Do not compromise or second-guess yourself ... buy the watch that you really want to own, a gold Omega that feels like an heirloom. You won't be happy with anything else.

[That said, I can't resist pointing you towards my favorite vintage dress watches as illustrated in this thread: https://omegaforums.net/threads/serving-notice-im-back.76641/]
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Why does the omega specifically, and old gold watches generally, appeal to me?It’s complicated, and I’ve been really thinking about it.They remind me of manliness, something I feel I lack.I am not confident like my dad was in being a man.I don’t think it ever was a question for my dad.He just was a man.Me, I don’t know.Objectively, I seem to have the qualifications.Im fairly successful, I’ve raised 3 males who are all doing well, I am not physically weak, I can speak up when necessary, I’ve been married a quarter century.But I still have this general feeling that somehow, I’m not actually a real man, just some sort of peripheral hanger on or pretender.Old watches like this remind me of a time when men were men by virtue of their very nature and didn’t think much about the issue. Of course, guys like my dad didn’t think much about their stuff, they just bought it and wore it and got about the business of being men, I think, although he had other anxieties or insecurities; it was not an idyllic time. It also goes to the feeling like I have nothing I value, that everything is temporary and crappy.I have worn a nomos Weiss for quite a while, which is nice and clean and perfect in its way, and which is certainly not disposable, but doesn’t feel like an heirloom, or perhaps its more like a diamond, shinier than me, than a personal possession.I’m quite sure my dad, and my grandfather, and the long line of dudes before them, would probably find my ruminations quite insane, but then again, if I were privy to the thoughts inside their head, I’d probably find those quite insane too, in my defense, such as it is. On paper, I am way more successful than any of the past generations, and there’s nothing in particular I can point to that would necessarily disqualify me from the Man Club.Some of these insecurities are displaced on watch selection, which is better than, saying, having inflicted them on my kids, who, oddly, are orders of magnitude more secure, less neurotic and generally less odd than I am, the result which puzzles me every time I speak with them.Where did these calm creatures come from?Why do they not worry about the crap I worry about, why, indeed do they barely worry at all, when compared to the Old man.
It is also a bit unclear to me the prices of omega relatve to, say eternal watches, which seem much lower priced for similar items. Still, I like omega for some reason.

...now about that ploprof...

😁

Ps: Don’t listen to @Syrte ... she may find them funny, a lot of us find them just beautiful (she will recommend you some tiny Longines-tacky-something-or-other which a lot of us find funny)

Pps: sounds like you are doing just fine in the modern man department ... thanks for sharing 👍

Ppps: buy what you like, not what anybody says. My first ‘manly’ omega belonged to an old-world-‘man’ who I am glad to be vastly different from...I still keep it as it reminds me of a very special woman who has been there throughout my life...

 
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...now about that ploprof...

😁

Ps: Don’t listen to @Syrte ... she may find them funny, a lot of us find them just beautiful (she will recommend you some tiny Longines-tacky-something-or-other which a lot of us find funny)

Pps: sounds like you are doing just fine in the modern man department ... thanks for sharing 👍

Ppps: buy what you like, not what anybody says. My first ‘manly’ omega belonged to an old-world-‘man’ who I am glad to be vastly different from...I still keep it as it reminds me of a very special woman who has been there throughout my life...


Are you making crepes? Looks delicious!
 
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@Syrte ... you are a fountain of good advice on this thread! Muggers wallet .. hmmm.
 
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why the desire for things? a fine watch in particular?

loneliness. a sense of being accompanied by life by an object and by extension the community that believes in its superiority

doesnt work

status. to be recognized as a possessor of taste or wealth.

perhaps but generally not. no one much notices or if they do...no one cares.

a bulwark against change. to have something over time. to keep the same thing...a quest for a temporary stay against mortality...destruction... entropy.

maybe

beauty. to be near something fine.

yes

to tell the time

fer sure

for me its almost like a costume. like i suit up each day to do battle with the world' to instill confidence in others that ehat i say and do isnt utter bullshit. a watch is a small part of that.
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why the desire for things? a fine watch in particular?

loneliness. a sense of being accompanied by life by an object and by extension the community that believes in its superiority

doesnt work

status. to be recognized as a possessor of taste or wealth.

perhaps but generally not. no one much notices or if they do...no one cares.

a bulwark against change. to have something over time. to keep the same thing...a quest for a temporary stay against mortality...destruction... entropy.

maybe

beauty. to be near something fine.

yes

to tell the time

fer sure

for me its almost like a costume. like i suit up each day to do battle with the world' to instill confidence in others that ehat i say and do isnt utter bullshit. a watch is a small part of that.


If the lawyer thing doesn't work out, I'm pretty sure you have a second career as a beat poet. And no, I'm not joking. That really does read like poetry.
 
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As for a watch, if you like vintage omega, I really think one of the gold 321 seamasters would be good for you. Something like this:

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Which is being sold here:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/reduced-omega-seamaster-321-chronograph-ref-145-005-67.84807/
 
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@Syrte ... you are a fountain of good advice on this thread! Muggers wallet .. hmmm.

Happy to help whenever I can. 😀
And yes, don’t get me started on ploprofs @eugeneandresson ! 😡
 
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Happy to help whenever I can. 😀
And yes, don’t get me started on ploprofs @eugeneandresson ! 😡
Ps: I have a few attorney friends ... their watches are all plastic Timex Iron Man.
 
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You ever have any magnetization issues from placing your watches on your pc like that?
I managed to magnetise two older watches just from typing on my new laptop ... damn thing seems to have a dozen magnets around the touchpad just to close the lid!