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How do you tell if replacement hands are later tritium, or superluminova?

  1. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. May 21, 2020

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    you can also hunt scorpions with one.
     
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  2. BatDad May 21, 2020

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    I need more instructions on that though!! Pics???
     
  3. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. May 21, 2020

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    All scorpions glow under UV light.
     
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  4. timecube May 21, 2020

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    And some frogs.

    Though, what's interesting about the Pumpkin frog is— the fluorescing pigment is not on the skin, but in the bones underneath. Their skin is actually UV transparent.
     
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  5. BatDad May 21, 2020

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    ::psy::Now that’s awesome!!!
     
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  6. M'Bob May 22, 2020

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    Anyone have UV experience with determining Radium vs Tritium?
     
  7. BrianPankow May 22, 2020

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    Tritium does produce very low energy x-rays through Bremsstrahlung (braking radiation). These would not usually be detectable with a Geiger counter unless very high activities were present. Not the levels found in a watch. You would need a NaI detector, designed to see low levels of photon radiation (gamma and x-ray), to detect Tritium in a watch. This is assuming there is enough Tritium to produce a detectable number of x-rays and the efficiency of your NaI detector. Not likely in a vintage watch with Tritium’s short half-life.

    The short answer is that you are not likely to detect Tritium in a “vintage” watch with any radiation detectors unless you open it and take a sample for Liquid Scintillation Counting. If you have a Geiger counter or dose rate meter and get decent reading you have Radium.
     
  8. M'Bob May 22, 2020

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    Thanks. I was wondering how the two different luminous substances on either dial or hands respond to a burst of UV light. Hopefully, different enough to tell them apart without a Geiger counter.
     
  9. YY77 May 22, 2020

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    So recently I had my TH Kirium of 20 years serviced and they replaced the tritium hands with superluminova. I didn't know after the fact I say t swiss made t on the dial so got them replaced back locally.

    You can see the difference in the picture on the left, at full burst and on the right after 5 seconds, the glow on the tritium hands and the spare luminova hands.
     
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  10. M'Bob May 22, 2020

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    I don't believe I can tell one from the other in your photo.
     
  11. YY77 May 22, 2020

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    it's a side by side of before and after 5 seconds with the spare loose luminova handset at the bottom.

    Maybe this helps.
     
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  12. M'Bob May 22, 2020

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    Okay, so the Tritium hands and dial are actually on the watch, and the two photos below are the Luminova hands?

    If that’s the case, then I wouldn’t be able to sort Tritium from Luminova from either the color nor glow. Do you have a photo that’s similar to the above, but after a minute?
     
  13. YY77 May 22, 2020

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    The luminova handset is actually in the same shot together with the watch head on the left and right.
     
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  14. BatDad May 22, 2020

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    Are you sure that they replaced the hands with Super Luminova?
     
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  15. YY77 May 22, 2020

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    I assumed they would not have replacement tritium hands for a watch from '97/98. The later models Kirium came with luminova hands albeit skeletonized ones.

    Also the t's disappeared from the dials on later models.

    Plus the glow of the replacement hands is really strong for a few hours.
     
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  16. BatDad May 23, 2020

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    I’m not familiar with the TH Kirium brand so I’ll defer to you - but they did an awesome job of color matching the two luminous variants!!

    If Omega did this it would mark it much harder to tell new hands from old.
     
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  17. YY77 May 23, 2020

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    Not experienced enough to comment on luminous matching, here's a picture to compare in daylight (there is a slight greener tone on the new hands).
     
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  18. M'Bob May 23, 2020

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    My thoughts exactly.
     
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