Help with Universal Genève Compax

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Hi guys, I’ve found this UG im
Interested in but I’m a complete beginner, I have no idea what I’m looking at. I can obviously see there’s some damage to the dial, but is there any obvious red flags here ?? Seller tells me the dial is original ect but I need a second opinion. Thanks

 
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This is a pretty bad redial, good that you asked first, definitely avoid unless the price is below the value of the other parts, which I'm sure it's not.
Also there is a UG subforum here, you might want to post there in the future.
 
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This is a pretty bad redial, good that you asked first, definitely avoid unless the price is below the value of the other parts, which I'm sure it's not.
Also there is a UG subforum here, you might want to post there in the future.
Thanks, Shame, what gave it away as a redial ?? Just trying to learn. Thanks so much for the reply though
 
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Thanks, Shame, what gave it away as a redial ?? Just trying to learn. Thanks so much for the reply though
Literally everything is wrong. The UG fonts are wrong. All the subdials should be radial not vertical. The numbers on the minutes and seconds subdials are wrong. The subdials are overprinted. The use of round 3 in hour sub dial is wrong. The use of swiss made on the bottom is wrong.

Anyhow if you want to train your eye, it's better to compare to an original dial yourself and find every single difference, rather than have someone else try to tell you what's wrong. Here's the only 22405 dial I could find here on OF, it's original, belongs to @Oku . It's a lume dial not a nipple dial, and it's later than your example, but still a lot of the issues that I described are visible. There are variations even between original UG dials, so it's not that your dial should look EXACTLY like this one, but it's a solid start. Have fun comparing, it's part of the process !

Definitely run any potential purchases by someone, until your eye is trained, as the above example is a super obvious redial, and you don't want to get stuck overpaying for a dud.

 
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Thanks, wow it wasn’t even close ha. I find it hard to ‘find’ originals to reference. That will come with time. Do you have any recommended vendors who sell vintage UGs?? I’d rather pay a little more than get stitched up like the above. I’m not flipping, just buying to wear to gift to my son down the line. Thanks
 
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Do you have a pic of the outside caseback?
 
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Do you have a pic of the outside caseback?
In the video.
 
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Thanks, wow it wasn’t even close ha. I find it hard to ‘find’ originals to reference. That will come with time. Do you have any recommended vendors who sell vintage UGs?? I’d rather pay a little more than get stitched up like the above. I’m not flipping, just buying to wear to gift to my son down the line. Thanks
I'm not sure I would go based off any particular sellers, I would go based off the watch. Checking the private sales here on OF is always good place to monitor. There's a really nice Compur for sale at the moment, maybe some other stuff as well (you can do an advanced search here on the private watch sales subforum, with keywords for Universal Geneve, UG, etc).

I don't have any connection with the watch or the seller but I would buy it myself if I had the funds.

 
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Thanks, wow it wasn’t even close ha. I find it hard to ‘find’ originals to reference. That will come with time. Do you have any recommended vendors who sell vintage UGs?? I’d rather pay a little more than get stitched up like the above. I’m not flipping, just buying to wear to gift to my son down the line. Thanks


"I find it hard to find originals to reference"..........then you haven't read through the threads right here in the Forum.

A few years after you digest all the information in the threads, the slight twitch and nervous tick will subside, somewhat.


Good Luck! We are here for you, man!!


Oh, one more thing.......start right now searching for a local watchmaker with great skill with vintage UG chronographs just in case you find the one you want and it is non-working in one complication or another or several.

and give him a bottle of Scotch every month or so if he can manufacture the parts he cannot find......



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