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Good morning friends, new member of the forum and this is my first post, I am writing to you on this occasion in reference to an OMEGA SPEEDMASTER 105.003-65 watch with caliber 321.
The watch was taken to a watchmaker to verify functionality and clean it, it is operational and fully functional, hesalite was changed for a generic one but I kept the original (very damaged), dial in good condition, perfect hands, original bezel, original crown From the time , the bracelet is reference 1035 with number 6 terminals and is in poor condition due to excessive use. The watch was practically abandoned by my father in a box for many years (I think more than 30 years), in fact he did not remember the existence of the watch and that discovery meant that he gave it to me as a gift. It has straight lugs, no crown guard, and is professionally branded.
I have studied the subject a little in relation to the year of production, type of caliber, serial number, different types of dial, cases but there are few pieces that I have found that are the same as my speedy, I suppose it is from 1967, it matches with the serial number of the Speedmaster references with caliber 321 from the year 1966/1969.
Also if an appraisal or approximate cost is feasible.
You friends of the forum have the last word as great experts and I hope you can guide me in this regard and thank you very much for your valuable comments.
I attach photos of the SPEEDY.
 
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Nice looking Speedy. Professional dial is replacement probably service dial.
 
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Really nice gift from your father! It looks like a wonderful complete Speedmaster 105.003, mostly likely will need a service from a 321 movement certified watchmaker. Many here on OF have recommended against sending these to Omega as they tend to replace original parts with modern service once. There is one thing that looks a bit off to my eye though...
Nice looking Speedy. Professional dial is replacement probably service dial.
Is it just me or does the "PROFESSIONAL" text on the dial look way off? Wrong Typeface/font and the placement is a bit strange, almost wonky at a different angle than the Speedmaster text. It's looks as if it was added after the fact and a bit of a poor attempt at adding that text IMHO.
 
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Really nice gift from your father! It looks like a wonderful complete Speedmaster 105.003, mostly likely will need a service from a 321 movement certified watchmaker. Many here on OF have recommended against sending these to Omega as they tend to replace original parts with modern service once. There is one thing that looks a bit off to my eye though...

Is it just me or does the "PROFESSIONAL" text on the dial look way off? Wrong Typeface/font and the placement is a bit strange, almost wonky at a different angle than the Speedmaster text. It's looks as if it was added after the fact and a bit of a poor attempt at adding that text IMHO.

Agree. Lovely watch but it looks like ‘Professional’ was added to the original dial.
 
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To me it looks like the watch crown has been replaced with a service item as well.

Yea the crown has been replaced with a service item.
 
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Agree. Lovely watch but it looks like ‘Professional’ was added to the original dial.

Super odd...I wonder if some retailer at some point decided that the professional text would make the older watch more marketable during the transition if they added it.
 
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I think your serial number reads 25445050. If not, try putting your serial number in the ilovemyspeedmaster.com search bar.




The main go-to price chart is at https://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/

You need to figure out the condition of yours compared to the chart.

Your bracelet and endlinks add value, although not sure how to value the squirrel nests in the links 😁

Typically, you're looking for 1. Correct parts, 2. Condition.

Read some of the guides on how to evaluate your watch at speedmaster101.com. Focus on your dial, case, and bezel.

Your dial doesn't seem to have scratches or stains, which is good. All the lume is intact and looks original. It's not a bad color. Color can be judged differently based on personal taste.

The case is hard to judge in these pictures. The caseback looks polished, which indicates the case was also polished? Some polishing is expected in older watches. How sharp the edges remain will impact value.

The bezel is scratched but not with major nicks that distract, so good. Better pictures are needed to verify it is correct.

Hopefully this will help and give you some fun reading. We'd like to hear back on how you evaluated your watch compared to what you read. It's easier to do so with the watch in front of you. Also, evaluations for insurance tend to be higher. Evaluations for immediate sale are more difficult to be specific.
 
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Difficult to evaluate with unresolved dial question- is it service dial? Was PROFESSIONAL added later?
 
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Super odd...I wonder if some retailer at some point decided that the professional text would make the older watch more marketable during the transition if they added it.
The watch was serviced in the mid-80s, perhaps at that time the crown was changed and the dial was painted (I don't know why) and it was stored in a box. According to my opinion (not an expert at all) the dial is original with its logo applied but they added or painted the word professional, I have reviewed several websites and I have observed very few watches with the same characteristics including its dial with the word professional.
 
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I think your serial number reads 25445050. If not, try putting your serial number in the ilovemyspeedmaster.com search bar.




The main go-to price chart is at https://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/

You need to figure out the condition of yours compared to the chart.

Your bracelet and endlinks add value, although not sure how to value the squirrel nests in the links 😁

Typically, you're looking for 1. Correct parts, 2. Condition.

Read some of the guides on how to evaluate your watch at speedmaster101.com. Focus on your dial, case, and bezel.

Your dial doesn't seem to have scratches or stains, which is good. All the lume is intact and looks original. It's not a bad color. Color can be judged differently based on personal taste.

The case is hard to judge in these pictures. The caseback looks polished, which indicates the case was also polished? Some polishing is expected in older watches. How sharp the edges remain will impact value.

The bezel is scratched but not with major nicks that distract, so good. Better pictures are needed to verify it is correct.

Hopefully this will help and give you some fun reading. We'd like to hear back on how you evaluated your watch compared to what you read. It's easier to do so with the watch in front of you. Also, evaluations for insurance tend to be higher. Evaluations for immediate sale are more difficult to be specific.
Thanks friend for your recommendations, I will try my best to add better images about the case and bezel. According to my little experience, I see a watch in good condition in terms of dial (except for the mystery of the word professional), case, hands, crown, bezel (scratched which is normal for a 56 year old watch), correct 321 movement. The bracelet, although it is the correct number 1035 with end link number 6 , is in fair to terrible condition (the squirrels did their job).
 
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I would suggest thats an Ed White dial added at the service. That would also explain the terrible lume condition, which inspires debate about originality. Often the EW dials had markers that looked like a 9 year old had squeezed them on from a tube.

For me the dial is worth practically zero - unless the text can be removed.
 
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I think your serial number reads 25445050. If not, try putting your serial number in the ilovemyspeedmaster.com search bar.




The main go-to price chart is at https://speedmaster101.com/price-chart-2/

You need to figure out the condition of yours compared to the chart.

Your bracelet and endlinks add value, although not sure how to value the squirrel nests in the links 😁

Typically, you're looking for 1. Correct parts, 2. Condition.

Read some of the guides on how to evaluate your watch at speedmaster101.com. Focus on your dial, case, and bezel.

Your dial doesn't seem to have scratches or stains, which is good. All the lume is intact and looks original. It's not a bad color. Color can be judged differently based on personal taste.

The case is hard to judge in these pictures. The caseback looks polished, which indicates the case was also polished? Some polishing is expected in older watches. How sharp the edges remain will impact value.

The bezel is scratched but not with major nicks that distract, so good. Better pictures are needed to verify it is correct.

Hopefully this will help and give you some fun reading. We'd like to hear back on how you evaluated your watch compared to what you read. It's easier to do so with the watch in front of you. Also, evaluations for insurance tend to be higher. Evaluations for immediate sale are more difficult to be specific.
Pictures of the requested pieces.
 
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I would suggest thats an Ed White dial added at the service. That would also explain the terrible lume condition, which inspires debate about originality. Often the EW dials had markers that looked like a 9 year old had squeezed them on from a tube.

For me the dial is worth practically zero - unless the text can be removed.

The text could certainly be removed - I've seen Guy Jeffery (@rexworthywatches on Instagram, based in the UK) do wonders with black dial watches which had significant damage. It might not be completely undetectable but you'd probably have to look very hard to notice. As to the bracelet, Michael Young at Classic Watch Repair in Hong Kong could refurbish it nicely; he did a 7912 I had which was pretty stretched and it came out like new.
 
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The text could certainly be removed - I've seen Guy Jeffery (@rexworthywatches on Instagram, based in the UK) do wonders with black dial watches which had significant damage. It might not be completely undetectable but you'd probably have to look very hard to notice. As to the bracelet, Michael Young at Classic Watch Repair in Hong Kong could refurbish it nicely; he did a 7912 I had which was pretty stretched and it came out like new.
Thank you for your recommendations, I will try to contanted. a watchmaker in the United States is also feasible for logistics reasons.
 
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Friends of the forum, I remain attentive to comments, suggestions, recommendations, opinions regarding the state of the dial of my speedy, I ask you, is it from the time? Does it correspond to the watch? Will it be painted? Does it alter its value a lot? Thank you.
 
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I don’t think you’re really going to get any development on what’s already been said. The dial seems original to your watch (a -65 Ed White) but it has been altered to a poor and incorrect standard by the adding of “professional” which hugely impacts value. Anyone considering buying it would effectively subtract the cost of a period correct dial from the value.

We can speculate as to why the text was added, perhaps the retailer thought ‘Professional’ modes were more desirable or perhaps the owner asked for the text to be added at some point.
 
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I don’t think you’re really going to get any development on what’s already been said. The dial seems original to your watch (a -65 Ed White) but it has been altered to a poor and incorrect standard by the adding of “professional” which hugely impacts value. Anyone considering buying it would effectively subtract the cost of a period correct dial from the value.

We can speculate as to why the text was added, perhaps the retailer thought ‘Professional’ modes were more desirable or perhaps the owner asked for the text to be added at some point.
Your comment is very objective, I think I have 2 options, the first is to try to remove the paint by an expert to see what happens and the other option is to start searching for a dial that has the characteristics of the time (I think it would take away from its originality and in consequently its value). Can you correct me if I'm right?. Regards.
 
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If you find a period correct dial in good condition, it would only detract marginally (if at all) from the overall value of you have it installed. The issue is that an original dial will be very difficult to find and very, very expensive. Several thousand dollars.

Personally, as it’s your fathers watch I’d be tempted to leave it as is. After all, in all likelihood, this is the dial that your father looked upon for however many years.
Yes it’s not as valuable as an original piece but you will only increase the value by the amount you spend on a new dial anyway.