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gerro
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Hello everyone!

I recently found at a shop this black dial Omega Seamaster, apparently from the '60s, and I was wondering if you could tell me something about it

I have no experience whatsoever on Omegas since I've never owned one, and I would be quite thrilled to buy this one!
I had a brief chance to look at it and the pictures you see is all I could get (I can also tell that the crown had the logo, but I didn't take a picture)
I couldn't open it when I had it in my hands, but I would be curious to know which movement (or even reference!) it could have
It was not working, next time I'll go there with a case opener
I don't know if this could be original or if there are clear signs that it isn't... I'm all in your hands

Any info is appreciated, thank you all for your time!

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Nepomuceño
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Looks like an old redial sadly. Others will chime in as to what it would have looked like.
 
JimInOz
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A bad redial trying to look like an Omega "technical" or "Speedmaster companion".
Probably houses a 500 series caliber
A replacement dial could be found if you're patient.
The case looks OK but without a movement inspection it's a risk.
Unless it's very cheap and you're willing to take the time to restore it, you should pass.
 
gerro
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JimInOz JimInOz
A bad redial trying to look like an Omega "technical" or "Speedmaster companion".
Probably houses a 500 series caliber
A replacement dial could be found if you're patient.
The case looks OK but without a movement inspection it's a risk.
Unless it's very cheap and you're willing to take the time to restore it, you should pass.

Thank you guys for the replies, I really appreciate it!

What would be considered cheap if the caliber was indeed one of the 500 series and was not in too rough of a shape?
 
Spruce
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Pricing can be difficult. It can sometimes depend on the country or continent you live in.

As a rule of thumb, look at the ‘Sold’ section on eBay to see what prices good or poor examples are fetching
 
gerro
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Passover Passover
Looks small - what is the diameter without crown?
I believe it is something around 33mm... not sure
 
Passover
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Regular 60ies Omega dress watches are between 34 and 35 mm

There are also samller ones with 32/33 mm.

Just make shure you pick the right size for you! 😀
 
gerro
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Ok everyone, around one hour ago I met up with the seller and opened the watch up... and bought it!

The movement looked fine and the inside of the case was also ok
There is no visible damage on the outside, also the balance wheel semms to spin freely when the watch is shaken, even if the second hand doesen't always move, but stops a bit after (also, @JimInOz was right, it's a 565 caliber)

I paid 140€ for it... don't know if that's a bargain or not but I will gladly take it to my watchmaker to get it running well again!

I'll leave some pictures here
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Spruce
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I think it definitely falls into the ‘bargain’ category 😀
 
Sherbie
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Case is made by ervin piquere sa (epsa) as shown by the diving helmet stamped logo

NOt convinced that the rotor originally bellonged to that what howver, as completely different colour
 
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Sherbie Sherbie
Case is made by ervin piquere sa (epsa) as shown by the diving helmet stamped logo

NOt convinced that the rotor originally bellonged to that what howver, as completely different colour

Service rotor, note the circle engraved below the text. Looks like it may be an early one.
 
gerro
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sleepyastronaut sleepyastronaut
Service rotor, note the circle engraved below the text. Looks like it may be an early one.
What does "service rotor" mean?
 
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gerro gerro
What does "service rotor" mean?

Omega made replacement automatic winding weights (rotors) with a circle below the text. The composition of the plating changed over time, so the color frequently is not a match to the original bridges. Since these later, replacement rotors were installed during service, they're referred to as 'service rotors.'

See below for a pic of my 165.001 with factory original rotor.

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