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Help needed please - Ref 166.041 Seamaster DeVille

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Found this beautiful Seamaster DeVille with Ref 166.041, Cal 564 Automatic.

Cant find anything similar with that Ref.! What are your thoughts? Legit?

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JimInOz
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Something wrong there. That's not a 166.041 case.
Maybe it got the wrong caseback during a previous service, or maybe ther's been some "putting together".
Wrong caliber for a 166.041 as well.
Don't like that crown either.
 
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Yes thats what i thought as well. Has any one of you ever seen a Seamaster DeVille with a fully numbered clock face?
 
padders
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Yes thats what i thought as well. Has any one of you ever seen a Seamaster DeVille with a fully numbered clock face?
Not an SMDV no but that style of full Arab number dial seems to have been a special order for the UK market. That is where it is seen the most. Usually on 1960s dress watches. I had something very similar in a locally gold cased model.
 
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166 is the prefix for a watch with date function.

And the cal 564 is Omega’s finest chronometer movt with a quickset date function
Pity to hide it behind a no date dial.
::facepalm1::
 
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I got the serial number as well: 24879533. Apart from the fact that it was produced in 1966 is there any way I can find a identifying number/reference?
 
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I got the serial number as well: 24879533. Apart from the fact that it was produced in 1966 is there any way I can find a identifying number/reference?

Unless a member can recognise the case style - the answer is no.
The reference is in the case back - which is evidently incorrect.
If you could get an extract, the movt serial number would only tell you where the movt came from

You have:
an interesting (likely English ) Omega dial belonging to a Seamaster Deville - with no date
a movt belonging to a Constellation or chronometer rated Seamaster - that has a quick set date complication
a caseback belonging to a non-chronometer rated Seamaster - that would have a date complication

and (currently) an unknown mid case

very much the archetypal Franken watch I'm afraid.
 
Davidt
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Th case looks like a 166.002. Certainly not a DeVille. That ref is for a standard Seamaster Automatic.
 
Peemacgee
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This is a watch produced for the American market.
You will notice that the numerals are very different to the previous watch you posted.
 
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Hi whats you opinion to this one?
Serial: 25567388
Cal: 550
Ref: LL6287-1
Ref inside casetop: 387094

https://www.ebay.at/itm/28631722074...uid=5s8ivuy8tbu&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Looks fine, but the price is absurd for a gold-filled US-cased SMDV. Instead of posting a series of random watches, you might want to take some time to study watches and the market. Members post vetted eBay watches in a dedicated thread of recommendations, and collectors sell watches in the Private Sales forum.
 
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it’s surely had the caseback mixed up from a 166.041 somewhere along
As others have said it’s a different case altogether
 
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As said you should look here in the private sellers section. I would think that even in perfect condition, that watch you posted last would be worth no more than $900. Of course, I am not an expert.

I really like the style of raised numerals you seem to be drawn to. Good luck! Here is one I picked up not long ago from the private seller section of this forum.
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Peemacgee Peemacgee
And the cal 564 is Omega’s finest chronometer movt with a quickset date function
Pity to hide it behind a no date dial.
The feet on a no date dial will not fit on a 564. I have the latter movement with no case or dial. There is a lot of subtlety on these. What I see in the OP is a frankenwatch. Nothing more nothing less.

Here is the case chart again:

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I just got my bestfit supplement. This is dated 1977 so there are a lot of refs missing. Sadly the tables jump from 162066 to 165067. Then the next page starts 166052. The movement refs mostly cover 565/752/1012. This was the height of the quartz crisis. Interesting enough the back cover has an advert for watch batteries. If you purchase 25 batteries you get the supplement. Sadly there are no 134x cases listed. Still looking for a comprehensive guide to case parts.
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There are other charts posted here in other threads. To quote one of the crystal charts which includes caliber 166.041 should be a 565.

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The feet on a no date dial will not fit on a 564. I have the latter movement with no case or dial. There is a lot of subtlety on these. What I see in the OP is a frankenwatch. Nothing more nothing less.
Peemacgee Peemacgee
The reference is in the case back - which is evidently incorrect.

You have:
an interesting (likely English ) Omega dial belonging to a Seamaster Deville - with no date
a movt belonging to a Constellation or chronometer rated Seamaster - that has a quick set date complication
a caseback belonging to a non-chronometer rated Seamaster - that would have a date complication

and (currently) an unknown mid case

very much the archetypal Franken watch I'm afraid.

I refer to my previous statement m’lady.
 
sheepdoll
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It is also possible the bridge was replaced. The 564 bridge will fit onto a 552 base plate. Same for the rotor.

Without looking under the dial this is just gueswork. The only way to make a no date dial fit is to change the dial feet or glue it onto the movement.

It is evident that this is a mut of a franken however one looks at it. This is simply a bunch of random parts in the shape of a watch.
 
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