Help needed - looking to buy this Flightmaster ..

tyrantlizardrex · Apr 20, 2020

Hmm... The DC8 Super 61 doesn't have a pilon on the leading edge of the tail... which you can see on crisp case backs, and is present on the Boeing 707.

Image below from https://www.blackbough.co.uk/

omega-flightmaster-ref-145-036-steel-vintage-chronograph-circa-1973-wxofm1-v05-1280x1280.jpeg

Which has led me down a rabbit hole for the last 15 minutes. ::facepalm1::

It looks like every piece written about the flightmaster post 2001 (including Monochrome, Worn & Wound, and Hodinkee) uses Chuck's piece as reference - http://chronomaddox.com/flightmasterarticle.html

And whereas he's saying "to his eye" everyone else is just stating it as fact.

Which is a bit naughty really.

Looking at the two aircraft side by side, it looks to my eye (again all opinion here 😀 ), like Omega used a bit of creative license to make a "jet age" aircraft, that wouldn't need a licensing agreement - it's got the tail of the 707, the body of the DC8 61 Super, and the nose of something else entirely! 😁

So that was a fun diversion into old passenger jets ::facepalm1::

JimJupiter · Apr 20, 2020

tyrantlizardrex
I always thought it was a DC-9. Looking more closely I think it might be a Boeing 707.

I stick with the 707 theory too. Look at the clearly visible sting at the rudder. Something (as antenna) just the 707 had to my knowledge!

Fatcat · Apr 20, 2020

707 for shure

chronoboy64 · Apr 20, 2020

MRC · Apr 20, 2020

tyrantlizardrex
Looking at the two aircraft side by side, it looks to my eye (again all opinion here 😀 ), like Omega used a bit of creative license to make a "jet age" aircraft, that wouldn't need a licensing agreement - it's got the tail of the 707, the body of the DC8 61 Super, and the nose of something else entirely! 😁

A franken! Nose is reminiscent of the Heinkel He-111 though. Propulsion of the aircraft is rather dubious, where are the donks?

TLIGuy · Apr 20, 2020

You sure it's not a glider? I'm a pretty competent pilot and I don't see any engines.

tyrantlizardrex · Apr 20, 2020

MRC
A franken! Nose is reminiscent of the Heinkel He-111 though. Propulsion of the aircraft is rather dubious, where are the donks?

Maybe it runs on hopes and dreams? 😁

MRC · Apr 20, 2020

tyrantlizardrex
Maybe it runs on hopes and dreams? 😁

You nailed it 👍 👎 👍

NikoMartinez_SYD · Apr 20, 2020

Thanks everyone for the input. I’ve had some further dialogue with the seller, he was originally unresponsive but now open and talkative and I’m comfortable “buying the seller”.

He bought the watch from the original owners deceased estate sale, all functions of the watch work as they should and my assessment after reading your comments is that it’s probs an I serviced original and honest example.

I’ll be making an offer !

NikoMartinez_SYD · Apr 20, 2020

Alright gents, the negotiations are on..

Given all of the above, unknown service history (aka, likely needing one), is $2,500 USD a decent deal?

In the current market, where would you place the value of this if it was in perfect working order (in the same condition)?

Thanks in advance

ATWG · Apr 20, 2020

It’s a good deal, you won’t regret it. Pull the trigger before he changes his mind. Don’t trip over pennies...

queriver · Apr 20, 2020

T TLIGuy
You sure it's not a glider? I'm a pretty competent pilot and I don't see any engines.

So it isn't that giant magnet that keeps it in the air?

Emeister · Apr 21, 2020

tyrantlizardrex
It looks like every piece written about the flightmaster post 2001 (including Monochrome, Worn & Wound, and Hodinkee) uses Chuck's piece as reference - http://chronomaddox.com/flightmasterarticle.html

And whereas he's saying "to his eye" everyone else is just stating it as fact.

Which is a bit naughty really.

15 minutes well spent. Thank you. 👍
Well worth reposting your whole post in "The flightmaster thread".

jeppehh · Apr 21, 2020

NikoMartinez_SYD
is $2,500 USD a decent deal?

If you don't take that deal plase foward the sellers contact info to me 😉

tyrantlizardrex · Apr 21, 2020

NikoMartinez_SYD
Alright gents, the negotiations are on..

Given all of the above, unknown service history (aka, likely needing one), is $2,500 USD a decent deal?

In the current market, where would you place the value of this if it was in perfect working order (in the same condition)?

Thanks in advance

At just over £2000 sterling that is well worth picking up.

Longbow · Apr 21, 2020

For the geeks amongst you, that “Pilon” is an
HF shortwave probe antenna looking like this:-

(Source: http://vipclubmn.org/couplers.html)

STANDY · Apr 21, 2020

Longbow
For the geeks amongst you, that “Pilon” is an
HF shortwave probe antenna looking like this:-

(Source: http://vipclubmn.org/couplers.html)

clicked the link. 😕

And ...so it was a shortwave probe antenna so pilots could talk to the hostesses?

or

What is it for non have a clue people like me ?

MRC · Apr 21, 2020

STANDY
clicked the link. 😕
What is it for non have a clue people like me ?

Long distance communication, for example when flying over an ocean. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency

Longbow · Apr 21, 2020

STANDY
clicked the link. 😕

And ...so it was a shortwave probe antenna so pilots could talk to the hostesses?

or

What is it for non have a clue people like me ?

Maybe this helps

http://www.smartcockpit.com/docs/Using_HF.pdf

STANDY · Apr 21, 2020

MRC
Long distance communication, for example when flying over an ocean. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency

ahh so Skip propagation....got it 👍 ( shortwave threw me off )

Help needed - looking to buy this Flightmaster ..

tyrantlizardrex

JimJupiter

Fatcat

chronoboy64

MRC

TLIGuy

tyrantlizardrex

MRC

NikoMartinez_SYD

NikoMartinez_SYD

ATWG

queriver

Emeister

jeppehh

tyrantlizardrex

Longbow

STANDY

MRC

Longbow

STANDY

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