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+1 for Simon Freese

He is my go to for this kind of speedmaster, he will go as far as it needs without threatening the value.

as to the “markup” - there is a world of difference between generic and genuine omega plexiglass.

true, it might cost omega a few dollars to make, but I will happily pay their price for genuine as the quality and end result is worth it

Thanks for all your videos!

There seems to be an element of doubt creeping in about relative quality, if not collectability..
https://watchguy.co.uk/omega-spare-parts-quality/

Mine scrubbed up ok., so I don't need to worry about that issue.
 
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Thanks for all your videos!

There seems to be an element of doubt creeping in about relative quality, if not collectability..
https://watchguy.co.uk/omega-spare-parts-quality/

Mine scrubbed up ok., so I don't need to worry about that issue.

I haven't seen that old nugget pop up in quite a while - take it with a grain of salt.

On the pushers, they are not meant to be disassembled, so when you install them, you just push them into the case fully assembled - 100% user error on that one.

For the crystals, I've installed at least a thousand Omega crystals - I've only had a handful break, and that was typically when there's an issue with the case, or I failed to line it up correctly.

It's a non-issue...
 
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Any thoughts on an o ring grease? I have always used Apiezon, but that is old time, high vacuum, not watches.
 
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Good luck - if you really dunked your watch in a fuel tank then anything could have happened, especially to the dial, hands and seals (they look okay in your photos).

Get it to Simon Freese and I'm sure he will be able to sort anything he finds. We look at these parts under a high powered microscope to check for wear and rust and polish/burnish/replace parts as needed to be able to provide a warranty. Whatever the bill, it will be terrific to have your watch running well and usable again after so many years👍.

Cheers, Chris
Good luck - if you really dunked your watch in a fuel tank then anything could have happened, especially to the dial, hands and seals (they look okay in your photos).

Get it to Simon Freese and I'm sure he will be able to sort anything he finds. We look at these parts under a high powered microscope to check for wear and rust and polish/burnish/replace parts as needed to be able to provide a warranty. Whatever the bill, it will be terrific to have your watch running well and usable again after so many years👍.

Cheers, Chris

I am hopeful our luck will hold on the old rust front. As it was nominally waterproof, it never filled with sea water, or petrol, just got
a bit of a whiff of both.
 
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The pusher o rings are quite small, even compared to the crown o ring. The old ones were surprisingly intact, but knackered/pinched, shown together with a new crown o ring, which is not exactly huge.


Edit: The crown seal is not that big in cs for my crown, I was confused by The Internet(tm).
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You can buy selections of these small O rings for the pushers from most watchmaker suppliers. I have fitted them many times but, why not ask the person servicing the watch to do that? It's probable that they will have a selection in stock and we'd normally replace anything like this that was needed for water resistance and a warranty.

I've said before that I doubt you will have much joy replacing the crown seal and ending with a reliable seal. Just buy a new crown, or ask the watchmaker to supply one. Of course, it's up to you.

Good luck, Chris
 
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Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.. It is my risk. It is going to end up waterproof, even if it loses value as a result. I have a few (32x, min.order £10 ) pusher o ring seals, in two sizes, on order. The ones you recommended on The Internet(tm), #10 seem a bit on the small side in CS to me, but in any case could not find any of that size apart from Cousins, who only do wholesale.

I have a cunning plan for the crown, but we will see.. I intend to make 4 metres of spring (wire length), if anybody needs, ahem, a bit. I lost the spring, and then found it again in the carpet!. In the meantime I ordered the wire and mandrill.

The original (Omega?) spring is a bit rough on the ends IMO, and could damage the o ring.

ps. It seems a bit amateurish to double up on the o ring, if just the one leaves something to be desired.

pps. Like a Beagle, they make a bid for freedom at every opportunity, but at least my version has passed the week of warm seawater test. 😀

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Should keep me in springs for a while.

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Which one do you fancy, given my limited choice, and how many to stuff down the hole of the pusher of an old moonwatch?
 
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Thanks @Scarecrow Boat and @Dan S .

That review from someone who never contacted me, and I have no way of getting in touch with, was a sore point but I think I hid my frustration quite well!😁. Fortunately, although I've enjoyed my time in the watch repair business, I don't need to do this anymore as I spent decades as an aerospace engineer. I am almost completely retired now and very happy playing with my cars and other projects.👍 I still check in here but am busy at the moment so don't contribute too much.

There are huge advantages to running a business nowadays as you can publicize it easily but against that, you spend a lot of time answering emails from prospective customers and for many it can be just a whim to see about resurrecting an old watch. These often don't lead to work and sometimes you don't even get a reply thanking you for the time you spent on their query. That's life in a modern business, and I have to say that nearly all my actual customers have been brilliant to work with and most thoughtful. Every watchmaker I know is snowed under with work and I believe that most could easily move to a personal referral basis to reduce the administration time in their business.

@dpwaber - as already mentioned by others, I would recommend that you contact Simon Freese. With anyone that you contact, best to just leave the job to them after you've agreed the work as not everyone will thank you for your thoughts on seals, or other aspects of their work. Good luck with your watch which looks like an example that has been properly used and enjoyed. It doesn't sound like it's been used for some years so, hopefully, wear in the parts won't be too bad but as it had moisture ingress, don't be surprised if quite a few parts need replacing.

Cheers, Chris

At least you’re open with why you won’t take on new work, and why not. I’ve just got my Mark II Speedmaster done by Swiss Time Services. They weren’t originally my first choice, not because I’d heard anything bad, but I thought there were people better suited to doing a vintage watch. I approached someone known for this work, and had a pleasant exchange and was told I’d hear from them when they had time. Nothing. Left it a bit, then dropped a polite email. Nothing. Left it a bit longer and dropped another polite email. Nothing. Left a polite voicemail. Nothing. This is rude. I could see on social media that this person was active and taking new work. I have literally no idea what happened. But STS did the work and did a lovely job, and now I’m going to try them with my Mk III and a case restoration. I had actually given the name of the person I’d tried before to others because of a good reputation. No longer.
 
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Good enough for what I need these days. New viton o rings fitted to back, original pushers, and crown, using Fomblin UT18 grease (as recommended by you know who 😀)

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