Help is this Omega Constellation 2852 a redial or untouched?

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ChrisHayashi

·Aug 3, 2023

Looking for advice on this timepiece. Do you think it is a redial or untouched original. It is a calibre 505 dated at 1957. I see the use of Chronometer vs Chronometre which I have read somewhere is not accurate for this model.

 

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Dan S

·Aug 3, 2023

These satellite photos are not very helpful. Please post larger photos, in focus, in good lighting. 👍

Edited: Aug 3, 2023

 

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Bruce235

·Aug 3, 2023

Photos are so bad it is like they wish to hide something or several somethings.

 

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seekingseaquest

·Aug 3, 2023

Photos are bad, but even with those I’m at 90% redial (tick marks at the 5-minute markers are too long).

 

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ChrisHayashi

·Aug 3, 2023

The seller gave me additional photos. Albeit not much better than the prior ones.

Thoughts anyone?

 

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MtV

·Aug 3, 2023

seekingseaquest

Photos are bad, but even with those I’m at 90% redial (tick marks at the 5-minute markers are too long).

Exactly. Also, a seller who can produce this style of studio pic but fails to provide anywhere near a decent resolution? I’m not buying it. Figuratively, as well as literally.

 

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qazwsx1

·Aug 3, 2023

Redial in my opinion

 

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MSNWatch

·Aug 3, 2023·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Here's my rule of thumb - 90% of black dial vintage constellations out there are redials. Of the 10% that are original about 90% of them will not be in great shape.

 

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Tomek

·Aug 3, 2023

I have got that one and I am sure that dial is ori, cal 505:

 

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Tony C.

·Aug 3, 2023·Ωf Jury member

And my rule of thumb: it is a red flag when a seller is unable or unwilling to send LARGE, high-quality images.

Tomek

I have got that one and I am sure that dial is ori, cal 505:

Yes, but we are discussing black dial versions.

 

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Bruce235

·Aug 3, 2023

Through the fog it looks like the i in constellation is not dotted. Chronometere should be "re". The minute marks are inconsistent. Case looks soft.

 

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ChrisHayashi

·Aug 3, 2023

Thanks for the responses. There were some things that my gut didn't feel right about it. I guess I was hoping to hear otherwise to relieve my doubt.

 

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TexOmega

·Aug 3, 2023

If sellers can't take some nice, focused, hi-rez pix, one is just gambling, especially this ref in black.

 

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jjen

·Aug 4, 2023

Black dials are hard to tell but a lot of the ones I've seen are redials when they are too glossy. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the original ones are usually more matte and have signs of wear

 

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MSNWatch

·Aug 4, 2023·Vintage Omega Aficionado

jjen

Black dials are hard to tell but a lot of the ones I've seen are redials when they are too glossy. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the original ones are usually more matte and have signs of wear

Original black dials can certainly be both glossy and in great shape. Like this one:

 

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jjen

·Aug 4, 2023

MSNWatch

Original black dials can certainly be both glossy and in great shape. Like this one:

Ah, ok thanks!

 

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gbesq

·Aug 4, 2023

jjen

Black dials are hard to tell but a lot of the ones I've seen are redials when they are too glossy. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the original ones are usually more matte and have signs of wear

Often true, but not always as MSNWatch notes in his post.

 

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TexOmega

·Aug 4, 2023

And, in the OP's reference, glossy and no signs of wear can be found

 

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iamvr

·Aug 6, 2023

TexOmega

And, in the OP's reference, glossy and no signs of wear can be found

Jaw dropping 🥰