Help ID a Watch Please - Seamaster 165.002? Copy?

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Hi!

I was given this watch that was my grandfathers. Not "left" to me, just something that was in his belongings that the family thought i might like to hang onto after he passed. He wore it for as long as i can remember, every day including when gardening (which was a lot of gardening). I did ask him about it when i was younger (30 years ago it'd think) and he said he wasn't even sure if it was a copy or not as it was a gift from someone after they returned from a trip overseas. The strap is just a spare i had which i put on because the one that was on it was very worn.

It looks like a 165.002 in images on google, but they all seem to have a cast logo on the caseback and not etched like this one. It has a sweeping second hand, but the second hand does not stop when setting the time (if that helps).

I'm not really concerned if it's fake or in poor condition, it's had a lot of wear and still running and it's just a memento not an heirloom. I'm not planning on selling it or anything. If anyone has any thoughts on make/model/fake/real it be curious to know.

Thanks
 
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You need to get the case back open to see inside. It’s fairly easy but you could also ask a local watchmaker to pop it open
 
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Take it to a watchmaker and get it serviced. After that you can wear it and feel happy that you're a proud Omega owner.

The dial may have been re-painted/inked at some stage earlier in its life, but that was normal before nuts like us all got huffy about restoration.

The information you seek is within the watch. Have the watchmaker take some photos of the movement and caseback and they will reveal all.

I'm guessing it has a caliber 601 movement in a 135.011 0r 135.015 reference case.

Edit: I just noticed the caseback, which is more domed than normal, so probably holds an auto movement.

And the fact that AUTOMATIC is clearly shown on the dial, so please discount my assessment and ignore anything I post from this moment on.

Now where did I leave my beer.
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My guess, and it’s only a guess, is that the dial’s original - if it isn’t then I’d like to have the name of whoever repainted it so well, but that the scratches on the crystal have distorted the photo. So, as well as a service and a strap, polish the crystal
 
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Everything looks good to me and it certainly isn't a copy. The only negative is the water damage on the dial, as if the crystal got steamed up and it dripped off between the 4 and 5 markers. You can't fix that but it's not a massively big deal and it's worth having the watch serviced, though be aware that to be done properly will cost around £100-150. I wouldn't keep that strap on it as they are not good for case backs.
 
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Thanks for the tips. It's definitely automatic. I did give the crystal a light polish, but it didn't make much difference. I did go very gently though. I was concerned about rubbing the case. I'll mask up the case and have another go, or there is an official omega service guy somewhere around here (Perth Australia)
 
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Thanks for the tips. It's definitely automatic. I did give the crystal a light polish, but it didn't make much difference. I did go very gently though. I was concerned about rubbing the case. I'll mask up the case and have another go, or there is an official omega service guy somewhere around here (Perth Australia)

See if this guy can help you. Well recommended on this forum.

https://www.lewiswatchco.com
 
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Completely genuine and I also think the dial is original not refinished.

A crystal polish with polywatch (or even toothpaste!) will help significantly but a good service will be in order.

Great piece to remember your grandad.