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Good morning, for the moment i have only these picture.
Next time i will open case back.
Thanks in advance
 
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What research did you do yourself?
 
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tried with google lens and found similar specimens but not matching perfectly.
For this , I ask if the type of index , characters, hands, logo are correct?
 
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The easiest way for you to find out more is opening the case back (or having someone do it for you). Make pictures of the movements, find the serial numbers in the inside of the caseback. You will have the reference number then and should be able to find out exactly how the watch is supposed to look. Much easier than taking a shot based on your images.
 
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The easiest way for you to find out more is opening the case back (or having someone do it for you). Make pictures of the movements, find the serial numbers in the inside of the caseback. You will have the reference number then and should be able to find out exactly how the watch is supposed to look. Much easier than taking a shot based on your images.

yes, thanks.
With serial and movement type is possibile date the watch and with reference inside case back check the model.
My question is for the fact that, at the moment, i can’t open and make picture inside these watches, so i try without this info.
Maybe based on someone's experience or trying to understand if the only images in my possession are plausible references.
If not possible i will update with additional information (inside picture)
Sorry for my poor English
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I would vote for redials. The cross hair looks pretty thick and the font on the Geneve looks slightly different than usual ones.
 
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tried with google lens and found similar specimens but not matching perfectly.
For this , I ask if the type of index , characters, hands, logo are correct?

why would you expect a perfect Google match ? Your Omega was born loooong before Google became a thing..... Google shows you, what somebody puts there; even all the fakes. Internet knowledge is somebody else`s knowledge.
 
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why would you expect a perfect Google match ? Your Omega was born loooong before Google became a thing..... Google shows you, what somebody puts there; even all the fakes. Internet knowledge is somebody else`s knowledge.

yes, respectable point of view but google could find forum, blog, discussions related to that type of image found.
I don't take everything google finds as true.
I evaluate it based on my knowledge.
If i see match with my picture is only a starting point, not a certainty.
 
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Are they real reference or fantasy dial?
Pretty sure both are original , black one probably a 610 and the silver dial a 268 or another 30mm movement close to that .
Very nice watches !
 
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Just send me the Geneve and have one less to worry about...😉