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Junghans Max Bill: Less than the eBay watch. New. Bauhaus design. Hassle free and pretty sure you could pick one up this weekend.

You could find a vintage Junghans with Arabic numerals for under $500.

But, the heart wants what the heart wants. You know it's overpriced, but if he likes that specific Omega - buy it up. What difference does it make if it's original or a terrific deal, if he's interested mostly in the design and his own sensibilities? Finding a good price on a specific style vintage watch with your timeline is almost impossible.
This is a good shout. I just need to find out if he likes it without being too obvious!
 
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This is a good shout. I just need to find out if he likes it without being too obvious!
you can also check out NOMOS watches - some are very Bauhaus


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Those embossed arabic dials look so cheap to me. Maybe if your brother spends some time looking at other styles, he will develop better taste. 😉
To each his own. I like this type of dial, regardless of manufacturing costs.
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Post pics not (only) links (they will be gone within months)
 
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you can also check out NOMOS watches - some are very Bauhaus


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That was actually my first watch, and still enjoy wearing. Maybe a bit odd to give my brother the same one?
 
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Post pics not (only) links (they will be gone within months)
Good to know, it's not relevant this time anyway, it's got the clunky applied numbers that the OP doesn't like. Don't blame him, the slim numbers on the stamped dial are much prettier.

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Good to know, it's not relevant this time anyway, it's got the clunky applied numbers that the OP doesn't like. Don't blame him, the slim numbers on the stamped dial are much prettier.

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It’s all personal preference but the pressed dial, while quite nice, may look (dare I say) a little bit ‘Timex’.
- which is fine if you want a Timex watch.

However, these watches aren’t that big and the ‘chunky’ numbers aren’t really that chunky at all.

IIRC there are also faceted applied numbers and flat applied numbers.

The issue I see with the watch you posted is that the dial has very heavy surface bubbling
 
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It’s all personal preference but the pressed dial, while quite nice, may look (dare I say) a little bit ‘Timex’.
- which is fine if you want a Timex watch.

However, these watches aren’t that big and the ‘chunky’ numbers aren’t really that chunky at all.

IIRC there are also faceted applied numbers and flat applied numbers.

The issue I see with the watch you posted is that the dial has very heavy surface bubbling

“Clunky” rather than “Chunky”.

But hadn’t seen the bubbles at all.
 
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Out of interest, has anyone seen a full-Arabic layout with applied numerals that keeps the very thin, Bauhaus-style stroke weight? My assumption is that this is impractical because appliqués need a minimum cross-section to survive assembly and service? I'm curious what is the practical limit is for this. Examples at any price or brand welcome.
 
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FWIW On applied vs stamped indices:

Stamped indices look good in photos, and you don't really notice the difference. Once you get a good amount of experience wearing/looking at these, (as @Dan S has!) you start to realize that the way they wear-out (paint chipping, the lack of sharpness to them/lack of precision,etc) start to look low-budget/bad quality and ugly.

Applied indices on the other hand are ALWAYS sharp, show a high level of precision/etc. If your brother is like any of the architects I've met, he will appreciate the precision/accuracy of manufacturing, and buying a stamped dial would be something he'll regret some day as he learns what else is out there.

And unfortunately, good photos hide all the sins of stamped dials, so this whole "I like stamped dials, they are great!" (then learn better with experience) seems to be an experience that many of us go through.
 
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FWIW On applied vs stamped indices:

Stamped indices look good in photos, and you don't really notice the difference. Once you get a good amount of experience wearing/looking at these, (as @Dan S has!) you start to realize that the way they wear-out (paint chipping, the lack of sharpness to them/lack of precision,etc) start to look low-budget/bad quality and ugly.

Applied indices on the other hand are ALWAYS sharp, show a high level of precision/etc. If your brother is like any of the architects I've met, he will appreciate the precision/accuracy of manufacturing, and buying a stamped dial would be something he'll regret some day as he learns what else is out there.

And unfortunately, good photos hide all the sins of stamped dials, so this whole "I like stamped dials, they are great!" (then learn better with experience) seems to be an experience that many of us go through.
Experience matters, but “stamped means regret” does not survive the catalogue. Plenty of high-end dials are printed by choice: Cartier Tank, Lange 1815, IWC Mark 11. No one calls them low budget.

Applied is not always sharper. You still see misaligned feet, soft plating, tarnish, and sloppy refits. Photos hide sins on both sides.

Depth is a technique, not a virtue. Judge layout, proportion, and condition, not relief height. Some design languages are more realistically done with print or embossing; hairline, Bauhaus-style numerals are rarely feasible as applied without thickening the strokes.

And with experience, some of us start to prize method over outcome. It is easy to nit-pick what is “considered best” and lose sight of the basics: balance, legibility, and coherence.
 
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Clearly the majority of people prefer the applied dials their stamped cousins, but you’ve made it clear you fee
Your brother prefers the font found on stamped. Fair enough. Watch collecting is full of subjective preferences.

Going back to your original question. The watch you asked about is a hard pass
 
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Clearly the majority of people prefer the applied dials their stamped cousins
Orthodoxy sets prices. Value hides just outside it.

But completely agree about the one I posted.
 
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Experience matters, but “stamped means regret” does not survive the catalogue. Plenty of high-end dials are printed by choice: Cartier Tank, Lange 1815, IWC Mark 11. No one calls them low budget.

Applied is not always sharper. You still see misaligned feet, soft plating, tarnish, and sloppy refits. Photos hide sins on both sides.

Depth is a technique, not a virtue. Judge layout, proportion, and condition, not relief height. Some design languages are more realistically done with print or embossing; hairline, Bauhaus-style numerals are rarely feasible as applied without thickening the strokes.

And with experience, some of us start to prize method over outcome. It is easy to nit-pick what is “considered best” and lose sight of the basics: balance, legibility, and coherence.
Interesting how you became such an expert in 24 hours. AI is truly amazing.
 
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Interesting how you became such an expert in 24 hours. AI is truly amazing.
Lol. Right? I'm not going to bother anymore, he is clearly the expert here and I don't know why he even wants our help!
 
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Interesting how you became such an expert in 24 hours. AI is truly amazing.
Flattered you think that was AI.

Many replies have been genuinely helpful, thank you. A couple were dripping with superiority and missed the question. You can hold a view on design without knowing every sourcing trick. I have taken the pricing points on board. Design judgement is, by nature, subjective, and I will not apologise for saying so.
 
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Flattered you think that was AI.

Many replies have been genuinely helpful, thank you. A couple were dripping with superiority and missed the question. You can hold a view on design without knowing every sourcing trick. I have taken the pricing points on board. Design judgement is, by nature, subjective, and I will not apologise for saying so.
I figured it was AI because of all the factual errors.

Best of luck in your search. It can take time to find the watch you want, in good condition, at the right price.
 
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I figured it was AI because of all the factual errors.
Happy to be corrected. I do not claim to have all the terminology. If anything I have said is factually wrong, please let me know.
 
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Flattered you think that was AI.

Many replies have been genuinely helpful, thank you. A couple were dripping with superiority and missed the question. You can hold a view on design without knowing every sourcing trick. I have taken the pricing points on board. Design judgement is, by nature, subjective, and I will not apologise for saying so.

Design judgement is, by nature, subjective, and I will not apologise for saying so.

I'm saying: You're wrong. IN isolation it is subjective, in aggregate, it is not. There is a reason that a SS AP or a Patek are worth multiples of what a Rolex or Omega is worth. They aren't more expensive to make, or made of better materials, etc. It is because the market's taste, in aggregate, has determined that they are 'better', and thus there is an OBJECTIVE preference for them.

In the case of indices: The same is true. Stamped indices are a turn off to much of the market, and thus cause significantly less value to the watches, this is the market showing an OBJECTIVE superiority to applied indices.

I pointed out: This is so common that what you're doing above ("my opinion is my opinion, design is all subjective!") is a trope here. People come in all the time to defend their position on watch forums about things like this, then realize why they were wrong.

A couple were dripping with superiority and missed the question.

Almost like you got what you paid for! If ONLY you'd not thought that valuations were 'subjective and just as good!' you could have spent the money paying a real evaluation service!
 
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