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"Just curious if there are any collectors here that enjoy modern Rolex! Which model would you add next to your collection?"

I was overjoyed with the 2021 36mm Rolex Explorer 124270, which fixed all the things that bugged me about the older 14270. And my favourite is the Rolex Oyster Perpetual 34 114200 which my wife got me.

Similar to @johnireland - small wrists - so no next model in modern unless Rolex makes,
  • a reduced 36mm-39mm Sub or GMT
  • reduced 36mm 228235 President with chocolate/black diagonal motif dial
"And how successful have you been with your AD?"

For the watches I wanted, they all came without any "special" requests from the Authorized Dealer. Oyster was a first time buy, followed by the Explorer. And both happened to be in the store when I walked in.

Pictures.... my modern Rolex's (I'm Instagraming my collection),



And if only they offered this motif dial in 36mm, not sure I could afford (at $40k USD), but it'd be a grail watch to opine over (pictures from Bark and Jack video),


Really like how it changes in the light,
Yeah it seems like the cooler dials are exclusive to the DD40 (like the chocolate texture in your photo) and DJ41 (slate dial, green motif). You should try on the DD40. Don’t be discouraged lol I have 5.5in wrist and it is awesome. 40k is a ton of money but you only live once right 😗😬

And to John, I agree that comment on our attitudes creating reactions we receive.
This watch community is full of amazing people. We have different tastes and should always respect one another. Watches in general are a work of art, I think we can all agree on that!
 
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A very interesting thread and highlights a variety of different reasons around how we form our buying habits, and dare I say justify them to ourselves. I’m historically a vintage collector but there is a lot to be gained from a modern watch and especially knowing it has good residual value and a warranty.
I’m on the list for on op 34mm blue dial with no history and was told to expect to wait 6 to 12 months which is fine.
I have a 7 1/4 inch wrist but prefer smaller so shouldn’t be to popular so if they keep me waiting over a year or so I might have to jump ship and buy a JLC reverso monophase. I also agree that although £4.4k for a watch is always expensive and if you try to explain this to those who neither care or understand it starts to sound bonkers even though it is a fantastic product at that “relatively” low price.
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Yeah it seems like the cooler dials are exclusive to the DD40 (like the chocolate texture in your photo) and DJ41 (slate dial, green motif). You should try on the DD40. Don’t be discouraged lol I have 5.5in wrist and it is awesome. 40k is a ton of money but you only live once right 😗😬

And to John, I agree that comment on our attitudes creating reactions we receive.
This watch community is full of amazing people. We have different tastes and should always respect one another. Watches in general are a work of art, I think we can all agree on that!

@omegawatchlover thanks for sharing the 40mm 228235 President on your wrist. My wrist is 5.75" and I was encourage to review and noticed the lug to lug is 47.4mm. I should technically be able to pull off if it visually works.... ie I wear the Tudor Black Bay 58 which is 47.5mm.

Now, only to find an Authorized Dealer that will have one to try on. Hopefully there will be an exhibition model made.
 
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I like all your selections. As a retired person approaching my 80th birthday, my financial planner suggests I stay away from "new" Rolexes, and I can't argue with his math. So that keeps me happy in vintage watches. But if I was to go crazy, I think I would like a white gold Turn-o-graph, if they make such an animal. I think the bad experiences with Rolex ADs is sometimes true, and sometimes based a dislike of Rolex and looking for an excuse to knock it. Such is life. Our attitudes often create the reactions to it that we receive. I'm sure there are waiting lists for some models, and not for others. As Ferrari legend John Pogson describes, there are car enthusiasts that are so filled with bias toward one make and against another, that he doesn't understand it. He loves all cars...and never dumps on someone else's wheels. I think a lot of the watch enthusiasts could benefit from his wisdom.

John, I’m a big fan of the Rolex Thunderbird too. So, I though you’d want to know there is a white gold bezel, unpolished w/ box and papers for - in my opinion - an amazing price… I’d have picked this up already, if I just didn’t purchase two Polerouters.

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I would like an OP41 & Explorer II but the AD's attitude to service really frustrates me, I ended up getting my Planet Ocean Chrono and Speedy from Trafford OB as the service is superb, buying them form there instead of WOS for example doesn't help me get the Rolexes but I've come to the conclusion I don't want to dance with the devil (AD's) and instead I will wait until I get a call if I ever do from one of the AD's but I am not holing my breath and wont be going grey for them.
 
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For now, I only have these two

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The Polar I bought from a Friend back in 2017 when the prices were still normal and it wasn't as sought after as today. BatGirl I have waited for about 2 years. Although I love vintage pieces I think I wouldn't own one because I normally don't baby my watches and bashing up a nice patina 5513 would feel kinda wrong to me. But one watch I would really like to add is the old gen SeaDweller 16600.
 
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Rolex has changed a lot. Its watches also.

In the past I enjoyed with the articles and ads in magazines, feats, catalogues, etc. Famous people like Chuck Yeager, Edmund Hillary, Reinhold Messner, Placido Domingo and others were always there. It's true that some stories were made-up like the mythical Everest climbing and the rolex explorer but these were not taken into account. It was funny.

It was possible to travel to Madrid, Paris, London, Berlin, etc. and to visit ADs with many references. You could see it, try it on, speak with sales person and buy it. On the grey market there were interesting prices in steel-gold and gold brand new models.

Nowadays if you are not local it's almost impossible to get a watch. ADs are cold treating future clients. Crazy hype in bloggers, youtubers, dealers and investors masked with fans. Words like sprite, kermit, bluesy, lefty, etc. are bs for me. Gmt master II with 24 clicks 🤨, submariner >8000€ 🤨, daytona for super good clients 🤨. The new explorer and sky dweller are great 👍
 
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That is the beauty of vintage watches. You see it, you like it, you buy it.
 
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That is the beauty of vintage watches. You see it, you like it, you buy it.

I agree. Calibres like omega 751, rolex 1570/5, etc. can be much better than the -2 +2 marketing 😁
 
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One of the main attractions of a new Rolex from an AD is they’re so cheap compared to market prices.

I wouldn’t dream of paying 12k for a new Sub but £6450 from an AD is great for a go anyway, do anything daily wearer.

I wore vintage daily for years and still wear vintage watches frequently but with a young family who likes the beach/water, a new watch that can take a beating is a must.
 
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One of the main attractions of a new Rolex from an AD is they’re so cheap compared to market prices.

I wouldn’t dream of paying 12k for a new Sub but £6450 from an AD is great for a go anyway, do anything daily wearer.

I wore vintage daily for years and still wear vintage watches frequently but with a young family who likes the beach/water, a new watch that can take a beating is a must.
You said that the retail price for a new Sub is £6450.The retail price on Sub41 with Date is £8450.
 
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A long time ago (1980s) I saw old Rolex watches that had faded bezels, corrosion and radioactive lume. I also thought that the crowns on the GMTs were too small. All of those problems have been solved now. Modern Rolex watches seem pretty appealing if you get them new at the MSRP. And as far as I remember vintage Rolex has always been a big risk - there is always someone who knows more who can take advantage of my lesser experience. New Rolex seems pretty good from that angle too.
 
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Of course, only if you are into that sort of thing. The new GMT is a totally different watch than a 1675. All of those problems that you talk about actually make the watch much better aesthetically. What kind of patina will you find on a modern GMT in 30 years?
 
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I have only bought one Rolex new with an AD and it was the Datejust 126234 with the silver dial back in the summer of 2019 just after it was released. Great watch!

All other Rolex I have bought has been pre-owned 5-digit models, which I had/have a thing for. Only the Rolex hype has caused me to enjoy them less somehow.

I would probably not by another Rolex from an AD even without any waitlists. I have both a 14060M and a 16710, which I like infinitely better than both the new Sub and the new GMT.
 
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Of course, only if you are into that sort of thing. The new GMT is a totally different watch than a 1675. All of those problems that you talk about actually make the watch much better aesthetically. What kind of patina will you find on a modern GMT in 30 years?
My 10 year old Milgauss dial is slowly changing from black to grey, and I accept that as patina. those aesthetic decisions about what is better and what is not change with time. I personally want a dive watch to be super durable and to wear it like a tool (ba dum tss)
 
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just like the look of it appearing all new and shiny.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm a vintage collector thru and thru but can't deny new and shiny is nice too. Kinda cool to like both.
 
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My Rolex inculcation is weird (or maybe not weird)... I always had a thing for strictly Omegas. When I was finally in a position to start scratching that very long-awaited itch I didn't hesitate - '57 Seamaster Trilogy.

But after that and a previously owned Reduced purchase I started to feel this, almost, obligation to own a Rolex... "Could I be a serious watch guy and *not* own a Rolex?" "Were that really that amazing?" I guess I needed to know to know ya know?
So I became obsessed but with a budget as I am a frugal type human and yet can't just buy cheap without feeling something toward what I am buying. So I researched and researched... and always having been a staunch 3/6/9 and 3/6/9/12, three-hander, type fella, I came across an AD selling a dusty, soon to be discontinued (unbeknownst to both him and me), 30 days pre-Covid onslaught, 36mm OP 3/6/9 blue dial for 10% below MSRP. As he said, "No one wants these and I need to empty out stock to get more stock from Switzerland" (little did he know what was coming in just 30 days).

I loved the feel of it, the dimensions, the look & wearability of it and the blue dial while absolutely detesting the handset (I truly am a Broad Arrow fella through and through), lack of legibility outdoors (I am outside a lot and often) and even though I initially disagreed with her -- my wife's pronouncement of "That just doesn't seem like a you type watch."
And even though I had offers as high as 9k for it at the beginning of the Great Global Rolex Stupidity (the hype train that ensued during Covid) I kept it because it was my first, and only (or so I thought at the time), Rolex.
I went back to Omega, purchasing a modern Railmaster, the new Speedmaster Professional in Hesalite, the Heritage 300 diver with the black sandwich dial & lollipop seconds and an Aqua Terra for my wife.
And then Rolex announced the new Explorer and that resparked my Rolex thing again. A completely dumb move as I dislike Mercedes hands nearly as much as an unannounced visit from my in-laws. But I put my name on the infamous "List" at our local AD ~ figuring that with all the bitching & moaning globally about purchase histories, etc I would be safe from ever receiving The Call. Asshole me, the call came two months later and in a ridiculous moment of feeling like both the AD must really love me and I had won the lottery, I said "Yes" and drove over and purchased.
And just like with the "Blue Explorer" OP... I loved the feel, case, curves, wearability, dial, lume, Oyster bracelet and clasp... but that Mercedes hours hand. Ick.
I wore it for a week and put it away in the box -- where it's still at, and even though my wife absolutely shellacked my ass verbally for the purchase (and deservedly so) I put my '57 Seamaster back on.

In the end, I think the only Rolex I truly want is the one that doesn't exist.

I, not exorbitantly but definitely pushing my personal frugality, purchased my way into knowing Rolex isn't my thing... but that said, a vintage GMT Master, the so called Pepsi, might be cool if not for that damn Mercedes hand.
The nearly pristine older Pepsi recently listed here at OF did, somewhat shameful to admit too, have me looking at finances and crunching numbers.

Absolutely hopeless I am.