Helium Relief Valve on Omega Seamaster Professional... have you ever used it?

Posts
150
Likes
494
I can say, with 100% honesty, I have never met a chick who doesn't think the HEV is cool.
 
Posts
849
Likes
1,749
I can say, with 100% honesty, I have never met a chick who doesn't think the HEV is cool.
You need to get out more
 
Posts
150
Likes
494
You need to get out more


I was going to ask how many non-WIS actually notice the HEV?

I've never met one who thought it was, either...



* I had to camp on that one for a little while *
 
Posts
4,816
Likes
12,194
Recreational divers breath compressed air which is mostly nitrogen and oxygen. High concentrations of nitrogen in the body lead to a form of narcosis that can make people hallucinate and act crazy underwater (very dangerous). To avoid nitrogen narcosis on deep dives, divers breath a gas called trimix which is air with some of the nitrogen can be replaced with hellium.

When I was getting certified, our instructors showed us some video they had taken while diving on trimix with full face masks that had microphones. They all sounded like Alvin and the chipmunks on the video. Pretty damn funny.

In the other end of the spectrum, my chem teacher told us about a gas (sufler-hexa-flouride) that is much denser than air. Apparently you can breath it in and talk like James Earl Jones. Disclaimer: the gas might be toxic. This chemistry teacher was old school. He had all gold teeth from an accident that occured while mouth pipetting con hydrochloric acid.
 
Posts
9,737
Likes
54,450
Aren't we all missing a critical point here? Without the HE valve, James Bond wouldn't be able to use the watch as a detonator, laser, grappling hook, etc. Let's get our priorities straight. Saturation diving? Seriously? Sheesh. 🙄
 
Posts
18,202
Likes
27,530
I actually dive with my dive watches. I am not a professional diver. As a "sport" diver, I am not allowed to descend below 130'/40m. For me, and legions of desk divers, the He valve is a stupid thing. Reminds me of a rich guy that buys a sports car with a wing that pops up at high speeds, and drives back and fourth to the country club.

I think the He valve is silly marketing. Omega should get rid of it.

FYI the first car with a pop up wing was a VW...
 
Posts
110
Likes
212
Recreational divers breath compressed air which is mostly nitrogen and oxygen. High concentrations of nitrogen in the body lead to a form of narcosis that can make people hallucinate and act crazy underwater (very dangerous). To avoid nitrogen narcosis on deep dives, divers breath a gas called trimix which is air with some of the nitrogen can be replaced with hellium.

When I was getting certified, our instructors showed us some video they had taken while diving on trimix with full face masks that had microphones. They all sounded like Alvin and the chipmunks on the video. Pretty damn funny.

In the other end of the spectrum, my chem teacher told us about a gas (sufler-hexa-flouride) that is much denser than air. Apparently you can breath it in and talk like James Earl Jones. Disclaimer: the gas might be toxic. This chemistry teacher was old school. He had all gold teeth from an accident that occured while mouth pipetting con hydrochloric acid.
Not sure if that was meant to be funny but that post took such an unexpected turn you gave me my first big laugh of the day.👍
 
Posts
34,264
Likes
38,883
I haven’t worn this in 8 years

Before that, I wore it night and day, rain or shine, for 8 years.

I’d say it could use its first service 😬


Is that the mid-size like Prince Williams or do you have Shrek wrists?
 
Posts
3,998
Likes
9,018
Is that the mid-size like Prince Williams or do you have Shrek wrists?

Like Prince Williams‘s, but mechanical, and not a gift from Princess Diana.

EDIT: lies! It’s not mechanical at all! Boy, it’s sat in a box for years and when I took it out today I realized I couldn’t wind it 😵‍💫
Edited:
 
Posts
4,816
Likes
12,194
Not sure if that was meant to be funny but that post took such an unexpected turn you gave me my first big laugh of the day.👍

I was going for entertainment. Glad to brighten your day.
 
Posts
29,671
Likes
76,829
Oh. Then I guess it’s a good thing Omega doesn’t make a quartz version of a watch with a useless He escape valve

🙄

Well, as you said...

"at the end of the day, I have a cell phone that can tell me the time and perform every “complication” known to man then some: I have no delusions that my watch purchases are anything but the emotional decisions of a sometimes fragile ego with a healthy dash of attraction to the sentimentality surrounding watches."

These are emotional purchases, and it seems that you bought an Omega with one of these "useless" HEV's on it anyway. In the end, the only complication that the watch industry would consider useless, is one that doesn't help them sell watches. Unless you believe you know Omega's business better than they do, it's pretty safe to assume that they know this helps sales more than it hurts.
 
Posts
3,998
Likes
9,018
These are emotional purchases, and it seems that you bought an Omega with one of these "useless" HEV's on it anyway.

It was a gift from a (now deceased) mentor, from back when I had no watch - now cherished for the same reasons.

In the end, the only complication that the watch industry would consider useless, is one that doesn't help them sell watches. Unless you believe you know Omega's business better than they do, it's pretty safe to assume that they know this helps sales more than it hurts.

Invicta also understands its market. Does that mean we have nothing left to say?

This and your initial post toward me are a weird tangent of suddenly acting like we don’t here on this forum do much of anything other than talk about things we do or don’t like (or understand) about watches - or what the watch industry thinks of us.

When I was gifted my 300 years ago, I knew nothing about watches, and I thought the He escape valve was cool. I do expect Omega successfully trades on such naïveté quite well.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. Mainly, He escape valves, tourbillons, and Invictas.

::stirthepot::
 
Posts
29,671
Likes
76,829
This and your initial post toward me are a weird tangent of suddenly acting like we don’t here on this forum do much of anything other than talk about things we do or don’t like (or understand) about watches - or what the watch industry thinks of us.

If you like the HEV or some other aspect of a watch or not is personal taste.

Is it useless? Yes to all but a very few buyers. Is that really relevant since this is all mostly man jewellery? Not to me, but YMMV.
 
Posts
150
Likes
494
Invicta also understands its market...

When I was gifted my 300 years ago, I knew nothing about watches, and I thought the He escape valve was cool. I do expect Omega successfully trades on such naïveté quite well.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. Mainly, He escape valves, tourbillons, and Invictas.

::stirthepot::

First of all, the childish part of me wants to say:



69th post!!!
Nice.

I have an Invicta. It's a lefty quartz Navitimer knockoff. The left-handed-ness was the primary attraction to me, but at $170, it was almost twice as much as I'd ever spent on a watch at the time. I got as many unsolicited comments on that watch as any of my Omegas. Prior to that, I'd worn a host of Timexes and a sweetazz Jules Jurgenson moon phase I got for Christmas as a sophomore in high school ( 34mm - I was ahead of my time in the small watch trend ).

Wow... you're impressed, I see...

But flash forward, and I have a handful of "nice" watches, including a couple with HEVs.
Now dig, I'm not on the defensive here. I agree it's superfluous in 999 of 1000 cases. But it is, in point of fact, cool. Yeah, I said "fact".
And here's why:
First off, it's a watch doo-dad, and nearly all watch doo-dads are cool, simply by virtue of them being wee tiny little things engineered to do BIG things. They're amazing. Some dude invented that, and some other dudes employed it in a way that is both practical - in the sense that you can use it - and arguably visually appealing. That goes for moons and calendars and alarms and so on.
Secondly, well, just look up what "cool" means. It's fairly amorphous.

If nothing else, and if you're very lucky, it's a talking point, should someone comment on your watch. Otherwise, it's a...thing... that speaks to the capability of your watch that you, as the owner, internalize. And it's cool. Saying it's childish - and I know you were using hyperbole - is just saying you're cool because you don't have one. And that's ....cool.

A lot of folks, regarding the Seasmaster Pro in particular, want the HEV gone as number one on their wishlist. Next on the list is typically the bracelet. Change the bracelet. After that, it's the bezel. Make it a coin edge or some such. ( It's hard to grab, especially with wet hands. No, no, no...especially with gloves { crying emoji } ... Suck it! These are the same people who'd NEVER get in real water with it anyway. I dive mine regularly, and use the bezel with and without gloves. It works just fine ).
You know what these people want? A friggin' Rolex Sub. And you know what? There's about eleventy-billion of them out there. Get one. It's a great watch. I'd like to have one, too. But I don't want my SMP to be a Sub.
Can't afford a Sub? Get a Diver 65, a Hydroconquest, an Aquaracer... There's a ton of super awesome watches that fit the bill. But they're not Omegas. You know how you can tell? They don't have an HEV.
But leave the HEV alone. Or don't. Or integrate it. Whatever - that's the Seasmaster. That's the Professional Diver that Omega offers, along with its' more Rolex-y sister, the PO*.




*Which, incidentally, barring the HEV, has followed all of The Crown's design cues, blinging it all to hell and back, until it looks as much like the 2500 as a Sub maxi case looks like Sir Sean's Dr No watch. Mm... yeah, a design that hasn't changed at all over the decades. Perfection ( eye rolling emoji ).
 
Posts
241
Likes
278
I like the look of the valve but have never used it. I doubt many people on here have or ever will.
 
Posts
9,737
Likes
54,450
First of all, the childish part of me wants to say:



69th post!!!
Nice.

I have an Invicta. It's a lefty quartz Navitimer knockoff. The left-handed-ness was the primary attraction to me, but at $170, it was almost twice as much as I'd ever spent on a watch at the time. I got as many unsolicited comments on that watch as any of my Omegas. Prior to that, I'd worn a host of Timexes and a sweetazz Jules Jurgenson moon phase I got for Christmas as a sophomore in high school ( 34mm - I was ahead of my time in the small watch trend ).

Wow... you're impressed, I see...

But flash forward, and I have a handful of "nice" watches, including a couple with HEVs.
Now dig, I'm not on the defensive here. I agree it's superfluous in 999 of 1000 cases. But it is, in point of fact, cool. Yeah, I said "fact".
And here's why:
First off, it's a watch doo-dad, and nearly all watch doo-dads are cool, simply by virtue of them being wee tiny little things engineered to do BIG things. They're amazing. Some dude invented that, and some other dudes employed it in a way that is both practical - in the sense that you can use it - and arguably visually appealing. That goes for moons and calendars and alarms and so on.
Secondly, well, just look up what "cool" means. It's fairly amorphous.

If nothing else, and if you're very lucky, it's a talking point, should someone comment on your watch. Otherwise, it's a...thing... that speaks to the capability of your watch that you, as the owner, internalize. And it's cool. Saying it's childish - and I know you were using hyperbole - is just saying you're cool because you don't have one. And that's ....cool.

A lot of folks, regarding the Seasmaster Pro in particular, want the HEV gone as number one on their wishlist. Next on the list is typically the bracelet. Change the bracelet. After that, it's the bezel. Make it a coin edge or some such. ( It's hard to grab, especially with wet hands. No, no, no...especially with gloves { crying emoji } ... Suck it! These are the same people who'd NEVER get in real water with it anyway. I dive mine regularly, and use the bezel with and without gloves. It works just fine ).
You know what these people want? A friggin' Rolex Sub. And you know what? There's about eleventy-billion of them out there. Get one. It's a great watch. I'd like to have one, too. But I don't want my SMP to be a Sub.
Can't afford a Sub? Get a Diver 65, a Hydroconquest, an Aquaracer... There's a ton of super awesome watches that fit the bill. But they're not Omegas. You know how you can tell? They don't have an HEV.
But leave the HEV alone. Or don't. Or integrate it. Whatever - that's the Seasmaster. That's the Professional Diver that Omega offers, along with its' more Rolex-y sister, the PO*.




*Which, incidentally, barring the HEV, has followed all of The Crown's design cues, blinging it all to hell and back, until it looks as much like the 2500 as a Sub maxi case looks like Sir Sean's Dr No watch. Mm... yeah, a design that hasn't changed at all over the decades. Perfection ( eye rolling emoji ).
I salute you, sir, and feel vindicated by your wisdom. To those who would consign the HEV to oblivion, I say no more! Join the true, the faithful, the proud - celebrate the HEV and the fact that Rolex doesn’t have one. The crown has the cyclops and that’s even uglier than the HEV and, while useful to the 40+ owner set, IS IN NO WAY COOL LIKE THE HEV. Pick up hot chicks with the cyclops? I think not.
 
Posts
5,522
Likes
9,437
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. Mainly, He escape valves, tourbillons, and Invictas.
Screw that! (not the helium valve...) When I became a man I could finally afford all of the things I could not have as a child. And now as a Dad I get to play with them and have an 'excuse' for those 'adults' who think people should be serious all the time. I feel bad for any adult that felt pressured (not like when diving deep) to 'put away all of their childish things'. Legos? Check! Skateboard? (I'll led Mad Dog cover that one) Video games? Check! Malibu Barbie and her Corvette? Uh, no. But I do have plenty of model/ toy Porsches, and they get played with vs just sitting out on display. 😎
 
Posts
3,998
Likes
9,018
You know what these people want? A friggin' Rolex Sub. And you know what? There's about eleventy-billion of them out there. Get one. It's a great watch. I'd like to have one, too. But I don't want my SMP to be a Sub.


The crown has the cyclops and that’s even uglier than the HEV and, while useful to the 40+ owner set, IS IN NO WAY COOL LIKE THE HEV.

What cyclops? 😉



These are the same people who'd NEVER get in real water with it anyway. I dive mine regularly, and use the bezel with and without gloves. It works just fine ).

I wore my 300M on all my dives, including what is likely my last dive in 2007.

That last dive was “Superman's Flight” in St. Lucia, beneath the sheer west face of Petit Piton; a drift dive supposed to provide divers with the sensation of flying effortlessly through the waters.

Except that day, no one had told us that Hurricane Dean was not too far away; what was supposed to be a pleasant drift turned into a rescue of my diving companion. We then spent the next 48hrs in an underground storm shelter with a dozen bridezillas that had their honeymoon’s wrecked by a Cat. 5 hurricane.