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Having doubts about this Seamaster
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connieseamaster
·Movement is in very rough shape, dial is sus (picture quality is too poor to tell whether it's a redial for sure, but I'm not optimistic). Hold your money for a better example.
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Plees
·Yeah, sorry for the quality of the pics. copy of a copy🙁. This was the best I could do. Thanks for the feedback. I'm told the watch has a timing variance of roughly 55 secs/24hrs
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jeppe888
·i would definately try to find a better example, crown is not original, dial looks odd (but difficult to see due to the pictures) etc..
with some patience you will find a good example
with some patience you will find a good example
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·I'm told the watch has a timing variance of roughly 55 secs/24hrs
1. Not serviced
2. Serviced and not adjusted
3. Serviced and worn out
As for accuracy, Omega's specs are -2 to +10 in two positions (dial up and crown left) at full wind and no more than 20 secconds difference in these two positions.
Not necessarily knowing what "timing variance" means, it might or might not be to spec.
I think this one will be one of those where the price determines whether you'd want it for daily wear. I'd say a service after purchase is guaranteed here.
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Edward53
·Even with this poor photo, the dial wording looks all over the place to me.
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ConElPueblo
·I don't think the movement looks too bad. There are signs of a wobbly rotor (tracks on the movement where it has dragged a bit + wear on the rotor itself) and there are signs of some neglect on the rotor (likely poor handling when it has been disassembled), but nothing horrible or unsalvageable, IMO.
The dial is hard to evaluate - a lot of issues could be hiding, but the hands seems to possibly have lost their lume. @Plees, how much do you intend on spending on your first watch?
The dial is hard to evaluate - a lot of issues could be hiding, but the hands seems to possibly have lost their lume. @Plees, how much do you intend on spending on your first watch?
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Plees
·Hi all, i see mixed feelings in this community about the watch. I share some of the concerns and mostly the costs involved to have it in a “proper” vintage condition.
I intend to spend €500 tops. Any ideas ion the cost of the overhaul? I mean it’s still an uncertainty until a watchmaker takes a look at it.
I intend to spend €500 tops. Any ideas ion the cost of the overhaul? I mean it’s still an uncertainty until a watchmaker takes a look at it.
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SkunkPrince
·I intend to spend €500 tops. Any ideas ion the cost of the overhaul?
I don't have one daily wear piece but I wear each of them at least two and as many as ten days in a row, so timekeeping is important to me. I also don't like worn parts in the movement if I can help it. Over the years I have learned to be less anal about it, starting the watch at 10 to 20 seconds behind, and take it off 10 to 20 seconds ahead, more or less.
So if you can share your long-term plans that will help us suggest your short-term strategy.
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Plees
·It will be part of a growing watch collection
until now I have mainly focussed on modern watches, but feel that I also need to include some classics
until now I have mainly focussed on modern watches, but feel that I also need to include some classics
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SkunkPrince
·It will be part of a growing watch collection
until now I have mainly focussed on modern watches, but feel that I also need to include some classics
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Edward53
·@Plees Move on. It's crap. The watch has a dirty movement, wrong crown and I'm pretty certain the dial is repainted - look at how the word Automatic rises and falls at the end. A project watch is not the way to start a vintage collection unless it's something special, which this one isn't. For some reason new collectors often think they will get a bargain if they buy a cheap watch and get it fixed, but they invariably end up with a lot of grief and an expensive mediocre watch. It is actually cheaper to be patient and spend a bit more on something original in good condition. I am far from the most knowledgable person on here but I promise you that in a year you'll be glad you passed on this.
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SkunkPrince
·@Plees For some reason new collectors often think they will get a bargain if they buy a cheap watch and get it fixed, but they invariably end up with a lot of grief and an expensive mediocre watch. It is actually cheaper to be patient and spend a bit more on something original in good condition.
I believe you're better off putting money aside until you get a thousand or more of whatever your currency is, and then seeing what's available and how you can ease into it. Fifteen hundred whatevers is even better. For some reason, a lot of new people seem drawn to these stick-hand stick-lugged De Villes, and there are plenty of other models out there that people ignore. Expand your horizon! I sold a Genève on here for $350 and that's because I couldn't get it out the door at $450. It had a caliber 565 calendar movement with quick-set date that kept astonishingly good time for a mechanical watch, at chronometer standards of the day.
Take your time, don't rush, learn more about the world outside of Seamaster De Ville, put money away, and have fun!
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Plees
·Hi guys, thanks for all your honest advice. I've still got a couple of days to decide, so I won't get bored 😀
Don't know where the De Ville came about (did I miss something?), but I get your point. For watch lovers it's a torment to look on the internet and to come across so many interesting time pieces.
Anyways, thanks again, and I will let you know what I have decided in the end.
Don't know where the De Ville came about (did I miss something?), but I get your point. For watch lovers it's a torment to look on the internet and to come across so many interesting time pieces.
Anyways, thanks again, and I will let you know what I have decided in the end.
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SkunkPrince
·Don't know where the De Ville came about (did I miss something?), but I get your point.
Omega sold a cubic crapload of those round-cased stick-lug stick-hand watches, from the early 60s into the 70s, so of course there are more of them around today. But there are so many more....
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Plees
·Hi all,
Just to let you know that after done the research and weighing your advice, I have bought it for 400. So well under my maximum which leaves me room for service and replacing necessary parts. As soon as I have received the watch I will post better pictures
Just to let you know that after done the research and weighing your advice, I have bought it for 400. So well under my maximum which leaves me room for service and replacing necessary parts. As soon as I have received the watch I will post better pictures
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Revo
·Hi all, what do you think of this watch?
Everyone: not much.
Hi all,
Just to let you know that after done the research and weighing your advice, I have bought it for 400. So well under my maximum which leaves me room for service and replacing necessary parts. As soon as I have received the watch I will post better pictures
Umm, OK.
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Passover
·No doubt this one is difficult to evaluate with this pictures so good luck to you @Plees with your purchase
As mentioned above a lot of possible risks
My gut feeling says the dial is not repainted.
Looking at the facets the case seems to be in very good condition.
Reference should be 165.003
Waiting for pictures... 😀
As mentioned above a lot of possible risks
My gut feeling says the dial is not repainted.
Looking at the facets the case seems to be in very good condition.
Reference should be 165.003
Waiting for pictures... 😀
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Edward53
·I will be very happy if I am wrong about the dial being repainted. Hope it turns out ok.
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Plees
·Hi all, just received the watch and for me it turns out better than expected. Of course the crown is not original, but as far as I can see everything else looks good. I have taken some better quality pictures so you can all have a look.
