Has this had a redial?

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DomJames

·Jul 7, 2023

I'm looking at purchasing a 1960's constellation (first vintage watch).

I've found one I love, however the not sure if the watch has had a redial due to the hands showing patina whereas the dial looks pretty perfect. Also not sure if the type on 'OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED' looks genuine?

Short video of the watch here: https://we.tl/t-AEAoTpvRz6

Any help on this would be massively appreciated.

Also the watch is priced at £3450 if that helps.

Thanks in advance!

 

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DomJames

·Jul 7, 2023

Additional official photo from the dealer here too.

 

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padders

·Jul 7, 2023·Oooo subtitles!

Might be OK but I don't like the last n. Looks a bit wonky

 

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DomJames

·Jul 7, 2023

Reckon it's worth giving it a miss?

 

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padders

·Jul 7, 2023·Oooo subtitles!

Let’s see what others say.

 

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Davidt

·Jul 7, 2023

That’s a redial for me all day long. The fonts aren’t correct and the hash marks are inconsistent

 

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Peemacgee

·Jul 7, 2023·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

Presumably it is solid gold?
For that price I would expect a less polished case.

IMHO the dial is a very commendable redial.
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Upper fonts are too tall and over-serifed.
Lower text is over-serifed and too heavy.
Minute haches are too short.
Hour markers are not defined as they should be and hit and miss in relation to indices.

This is mine for comparison ( of text and case condition)

 

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DomJames

·Jul 7, 2023

Thanks for your response.

Yep, the watch is 18ct.

I did think considering it's age it did feel very polished.
Also the back plate motif looks like it's lost some definition potentially down to over-polishing?


Think I may give this one a miss after hearing the comments.

Beautiful watch btw too!

 

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BAJJ

·Jul 7, 2023

I think its a redial, the font for the main text appears off (like it was stretched vertically) and it looks like a few of the minute markers do not line up with the applied indices, although this could be parallax error. The case is also heavily polished. For me it would be a pass at that price.

Edited: Jul 7, 2023

 

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rkny18

·Jul 7, 2023

Looks like a redial, albeit an older one. Back in the day, there were companies that did nothing but redials. They sometimes even had manufacturers’ original printing dies for lettering. But the minute markers usually gave it away, as I feel they do on this example.

 

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norb1967

·Jul 7, 2023

I’m inclined to say redial. Fonts at the top aren’t bold enough and not quite right. Wait for a better example.

 

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SWmania

·Jul 7, 2023

A really good redial I have to say, not as obvious but a redial still in my opinion

 

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deepsealight

·Jul 7, 2023

This looks like a redial. And the watch looks nice