Has anyone in the UK made a purchase from the EU for more than £135?

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I live in France but import goods- specifically PVCu doors and windows from the UK , I have a haulage company that deals with the transportation aspect and all being well my first load since 1st January should arrive Tuesday.
We are all relatively content ( suppliers, transportation and myself), of the process and the correct paperwork is in place however I shall breathe a sign of relief when it all arrives.
They are using agents on both sides for the documentation but even the agents are not 100% sure on all the information relevant to the hauliers who primarily are a removals company.
When I met them on their first trip into France a couple weeks ago they still didn't know what the costs were going to be for removals. They know the cost of I putting the HS codes with the import and export agents but that's it.
They advised me in the overall cost of my shipment and the value of the goods , that the cost for this side of things really isn't too bad.
As far VAT/TVA is concerned ,it's shipped zero rated as it always has been.
Ultimately, we have not been able to find or obtain exact figures as to extra costs post Brexit- I will soon find out and can update more from my side of things.

I would personally appreciate it if you could - we have a place in France and used to periodically ship stuff down there as generally, for certain furniture and building materials, I found the UK had more choice and was cheaper. Of course that may change now (ill be keeping an eye on any charges/costs for moving personal items), but it would be useful to know what additional removal costs might be - the company I used to use has decided to stop shipping into the EU entirely and only focus on intra UK removals...
 
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the company I used to use has decided to stop shipping into the EU entirely and only focus on intra UK removals...

It seems catastrophic for trade. The number of companies no longer willing to cross the channel!

 
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It’s all f****d!

what a complete shambles!
 
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Following up on previous posts I am now advised that customs charges have been levied, how much I do not know as Parcelforce will post out an invoice.
Patience is said to be a virtue 😁
 
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Ok here we go..

From a dealers point of view who runs 3 e-commerce sites and ships worldwide.

From Jan 1st we all know the UK left the EU. When it comes to the VAT its becoming a minefield. There is no clear solid info no matter what you read.

Everything has to have a customs declaration, country of origin, HS code, EORI and VAT number if you are a business. If you dont have any of these on the declaration you risk the package being stopped. A currier company told me that if one package in a skid is missing this info, the entire skid (palette to you and i) is fully delayed until all the info has been supplied.

Then there is the postal service - They are simply not geared up for this amount of customs clearance and paperwork. It's not only delaying packages but also leading to the loss of many items. To date I am at 61 small packages that have simply gone missing inn transit, with no sign of anything turning up.

Even Royal Mail Special Delivery is not running on time.

One thing I will say is that it's not helping anyone this side or the EU side in items being delivered without charges.

BE PREPARED TO PAY VAT AND DUTIES! There is no longer FREE TRADE! This is not me on a political rant, this is me stating what is happening to my EU and UK shipments, both to and from - it's not great at all.
In theory this is an inter trade rate increase (Mastercard to Trader) so shouldn't be passed on to customers, but of course it will in some form, and I expect closely followed by VISA and others. Then wait until the mobile 'phone providers join the bandwagon and lift roaming charge and data caps...I predict mobs and pitchforks

Banking ripoff ! :whipped:
 
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I would personally appreciate it if you could - we have a place in France and used to periodically ship stuff down there as generally, for certain furniture and building materials, I found the UK had more choice and was cheaper. Of course that may change now (ill be keeping an eye on any charges/costs for moving personal items), but it would be useful to know what additional removal costs might be - the company I used to use has decided to stop shipping into the EU entirely and only focus on intra UK removals...

Well my shipment arrived absolutely fine. There was a lot of communication between the suppliers, the hauliers and customs so the right details were present, and worded correctly but it seems they passed through at zero percent tariffs- which should have been the case. The TVA element we will have to pay but have not had a request to pay it yet- I suspect it has been paid by the import agent and will receive an invoice for payment in due course. This will be offset on our books so overall the increased cost per shipment is the cost for inputting the correct HS codes into the system and any fees by the import agent for user of their deferrment account.

Most hauliers are really struggling for various reasons ,thankfully we have been using ours for years and they are good!
We are fortunate that we have one shipment of high value a month rather than multiple shipments so any extra paperwork is not too bad now that we have a template and know what to do!- well ,until they change it.

We will ultimately source less items for business and personal from the UK now for simplicity sake.

Separately I did have a shipment sent via ups with a value of £303.50. it attract fees of 116 euros.
18euros Inc TVA ups handling.
98 in customs- which is approximately 68 euros worth of TVA and the rest I have assumed was tariff costs as it did not have 'originated In the UK ' on it- 'made in the UK' is not enough to satisfy the zero tariff element.

This is what we have found over the last week or so and thankfully doesn't affect business for which I consider myself very fortunate!.
 
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I take it by reading the comments on this thread that brexit is already proving a success.wait until the COVID movement restrictions are lifted and the mass transit of people to Europe starts again,god help us!
 
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In theory this is an inter trade rate increase (Mastercard to Trader) so shouldn't be passed on to customers, but of course it will in some form, and I expect closely followed by VISA and others. Then wait until the mobile 'phone providers join the bandwagon and lift roaming charge and data caps...I predict mobs and pitchforks

Interchange fees are between banks, acquiring bank (whi owns the merchant relationship) and issuing bank (who owns the cardholder/corporate relationship).

As the UK has left the SEPA region (intra-Europian fees) the interchange fees are now interregional ones (EU to another region) and by default the higher.

It will be up to the bank to decide how to manage the extra costs... From experience, they are not into charitable business, and will pass it through to merchants and cardholder.

As per the petition, I don't see the point... You can't decide to end your club membership but still be entitled to its benefits once out.

As such MasterCard has nothing to do in it other than aligning to the new regulations
 
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Correct. That's why I very recently didn't buy a pre-owned watch coming from England.
Same for me - I’m in Ireland and bought many watches from the UK but the VAT has stopped me on a couple of watches I would have loved so far in 21.
 
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I jumped on the vintage Breitling of my dreams two weeks ago. A model that I had been looking for 5 years.
On the basis of the trade deal publicised as a Christmas gift on the British media, I naively assumed that no VAT would apply.

But the the German seller politely informed me that:
- he was not allowed to send it mount on a alligator strap to the UK anymore due to Brexit;
- it would take 8 weeks to be delivered to London;
- and the additional duty charges would apply.

You may guess how I am feeling about this whole Brexit thing...
 
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the German seller politely informed me that:
- he was not allowed to send it mount on a alligator strap to the UK anymore due to Brexit;
- it would take 8 weeks to be delivered to London;
- and the additional duty charges would apply.
Sorry for you - agreed the VAT thing sux. But I wonder whether the CITES point is factual. Anyone know, please?📖

And the 8 weeks thing is just a BS excuse. I guess the politicians didn't reckon inertia and friction like that into their calculations about non-tariff barriers. 🙁
 
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Sorry for you - agreed the VAT thing sux. But I wonder whether the CITES point is factual. Anyone know, please?📖

Poking about here https://www.speciesplus.net/#/taxon...o_entities_ids=&geo_entity_scope=cites&page=1 it looks as if most alligators are OK, but there are a few species and origins that have restrictions. I suspect the seller's problem might be not knowing what species of alligator provided the leather and/or being able to prove it.
 
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Apparently second hand sovereignity comes with a price supplement.
 
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Make it a pain in the arse when buying stuff. So people are stopping buying stuff .....but every politician wants you to buy stuff because the economy is stuffed.

Sorry for you - agreed the VAT thing sux. But I wonder whether the CITES point is factual. Anyone know, please?📖

CITES is another thing that probably no one thought of until it was needed. 🤦
Would probably default to the same as EU but it’s another international thing that has to be changed and it will take a while.

Had a look and the UK is still a member as it is country and not region but it would have EU documentation still. Last amendment was 2016 so nothing new has been done before or after Brexit.

((It wouldn’t be that hard to change as not that the UK has that many animals 😉 ))
 
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Yes the CITEs points are generally correct - previously when the U.K. was in the Eu, trade such as alligator straps was considered domestic, whereas now the U.K. had left, it counts as international and so CITES applies. Most large sellers will have the right paperwork, but not all. Whether you get caught depends on what you say on the customs forms - some of my previous watch and strap sales eg to the US were stopped (even though, the US being the largest source of farmed alligator, was probably where they came from)...I wonder if the same will happen with shark and stingray straps? Anyway, now I just say “leather strap”

This has certainly caught out a number of people, including this guy who’s business sold live eels mostly to the EU:

https://www.theforester.co.uk/artic...old down river&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2021
 
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Following up on previous posts I am now advised that customs charges have been levied, how much I do not know as Parcelforce will post out an invoice.
Patience is said to be a virtue 😁

Charges paid and holding my head high 😀

20% Import VAT plus £12.00 handling charge 🙁
 
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So, to summarise, as an UK buyer of a second hand watch valued above £135 from the EU, the item is subject to VAT and duties? No arguments, no special cases, no loopholes, no work arounds?
 
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So, to summarise, as an UK buyer of a second hand watch valued above £135 from the EU, the item is subject to VAT and duties? No arguments, no special cases, no loopholes, no work arounds?

If you're in UK, dealing with the EU countries is now basically the same as dealing with all the other 150+ countries last year. Start looking to USA (or elsewhere) for second hand watches now as the deals are probably better.

Cheers, Chris
 
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So, to summarise, as an UK buyer of a second hand watch valued above £135 from the EU, the item is subject to VAT and duties? No arguments, no special cases, no loopholes, no work arounds?

Buy a holiday house in Northern Ireland 📖.