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I respectfully disagree. By utilizing dollar cost averaging, investing in any of the major equity indexes (S&P 500, NASDAQ, Russell 2000), and not panic selling during market downturns, an average investor will do very well over the long haul. I’ve been doing exactly that for 30 years and I’ve done very well despite some disastrous downside markets.

But a stock market crash could wipe it all out tomorrow. (1987 and 2008 wasn’t a good time for many)

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Your comparing everything as a whole but not as a individual stock.
You are just betting each way like a gambler backing every horse in the race


an average investor will do very well over the long haul.
So does the average gambler.
But there is the extreme like the stock market. Big winners and big loosers


I do see and agree with your point @gbesq but it is a gamble to a lot of people and a bookie has a lot in common with a certain group of people in the stock market game that are being targeted by what’s happening.
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You are just betting each way like a gambler backing every horse in the race

Not really, but it depends on how you invest. Are you investing based on the true value of the company, earnings, etc., or just what's hot at the moment? One isn't gambling, and one is.
 
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Not really, but it depends on how you invest. Are you investing based on the true value of the company, earnings, etc., or just what's hot at the moment? One isn't gambling, and one is.

I think you nailed what I am getting at. For some it’s a long race that is investment but the other is the quick race gamble.
 
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But a stock market crash could wipe it all out tomorrow. (1987 and 2008 wasn’t a good time for many)

And

Your comparing everything as a whole but not as a individual stock.
You are just betting each way like a gambler backing every horse in the race



So does the average gambler.
But there is the extreme like the stock market. Big winners and big loosers


I do see and agree with your point @gbesq but it is a gamble to a lot of people and a bookie has a lot in common with a certain group of people in the stock market game that are being targeted by what’s happening.
Wait, what? I was fully invested in the markets for both the 1987 and 2008 crashes. 1987 was very short lived and the markets bounced back in a matter of days. 2008 took longer, but I have long since recovered all of my losses and added significant gains since then. And the idea that the average gambler does very well over the long term is ridiculous. All gambling has a negative long term expectation. Ask any statistician and/or anyone in the gaming industry. As is well known, the house always wins. That is certainly not true of long term investing.
 
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But a stock market crash could wipe it all out tomorrow. (1987 and 2008 wasn’t a good time for many)

It was if you bought, as I did...
 
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I agree with both of you. Like you I have held long and done well. The educated investor will always do well.

But there is a gambling element to modern Stock Market trading in shorts and younger day traders. That are betting just like gambling.
That’s all I am saying.
 
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I agree with both of you. Like you I have held long and done well. The educated investor will always do well.

But there is a gambling element to modern Stock Market trading in shorts and younger day traders. That are betting just like gambling.
That’s all I am saying.
With that I agree.
 
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I am gonna get out my Big Box of Silver Eagles tonight and rub them all over me.

Popular Coin shop in town sold out of Silver eagles last week in anticipation of the big run up.
 
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People talk about gambling, or speculation, as if it’s a bad thing. It’s not. There are some people who tend to walk away from a poker table with more money than they sat down with, and there are people who tend to get cleaned out. Gamble without understanding the game and how it’s played and I have no sympathy for you.

Investing is based on fundamentals, and it’s far easier on your peace of mind than gambling. If you buy high quality companies that pay an ever-increasing dividend when they trade at a good price, and hold them indefinitely with a plan to sell at a stop-loss price, you are investing. For some reason, most people are as bad at this as they are at gambling. When you do this, you can celebrate higher prices because you feel like a stock market guru, and you can celebrate falling prices because your dividends will reinvest at a better rate. I call it ‘buy it and forget it’ investing.

The thing that tells me I’m a decent gambler is the fact that my gambling accounts have outperformed my investing portfolio which has done well. So I love gamblers, especially the bad ones. They make the world a better place.
 
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People talk about gambling, or speculation, as if it’s a bad thing. It’s not. There are some people who tend to walk away from a poker table with more money than they sat down with, and there are people who tend to get cleaned out. Gamble without understanding the game and how it’s played and I have no sympathy for you.

Investing is based on fundamentals, and it’s far easier on your peace of mind than gambling. If you buy high quality companies that pay an ever-increasing dividend when they trade at a good price, and hold them indefinitely with a plan to sell at a stop-loss price, you are investing. For some reason, most people are as bad at this as they are at gambling. When you do this, you can celebrate higher prices because you feel like a stock market guru, and you can celebrate falling prices because your dividends will reinvest at a better rate. I call it ‘buy it and forget it’ investing.

The thing that tells me I’m a decent gambler is the fact that my gambling accounts have outperformed my investing portfolio which has done well. So I love gamblers, especially the bad ones. They make the world a better place.
This is not a critique on you just commenting on the stop losses. They are a good way to play it safe but those flash crashes can get you. Had that issue once.
 
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This is not a critique on you just commenting on the stop losses. They are a good way to play it safe but those flash crashes can get you. Had that issue once.
Agreed. I don’t enter them as trades. Better to set price alerts or use a service like Tradestops.
 
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Agreed. I don’t enter them as trades. Better to set price alerts or use a service like Tradestops.
Ah thanks I was hoping you wouldn’t take that the wrong way. Sometimes you comment on what someone said and wires cross and things get haywire. On a side note this “Reddit silver squeeze” is a bit odd, the media is pushing it but wallstreet bets is calling BS saying they know they can’t short silver. Yet silver is on the move today. Life is funny.
 
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Ah thanks I was hoping you wouldn’t take that the wrong way. Sometimes you comment on what someone said and wires cross and things get haywire. On a side note this “Reddit silver squeeze” is a bit odd, the media is pushing it but wallstreet bets is calling BS saying they know they can’t short silver. Yet silver is on the move today. Life is funny.
No telling who pushed it. Could even be JPM since they supposedly closed their silver shorts already. I sold the First Majestic Silver shares I bought late last week, but the reasoning for holding silver miners remains as the dollar sinks ever deeper into the toilet.
 
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I bought one share of AMC for under $15 just for fun. I fully expect to lose money on my one share of AMC but "Stonks to the moon!!!"
 
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I bought one share of AMC for under $15 just for fun. I fully expect to lose money on my one share of AMC but "Stonks to the moon!!!"
Next time buy two. 😉
 
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Browse WSB for 5 minutes and you will recognize that this whole „Reddit is moving into Silver“ narrative is a hoax. Most of those comments come from newly created bot accounts. „Investors lost interest in GME, volume is low!“

Well go figure, with a most of the Americans (and a lot of Europeans) trading with RH,TR etc and them restricting GME to 1-5 shares to trade/hold. Just look at the volume numbers before they started those shenanigans.

Last but not least, guess who has massive long positions in Silver? Right, our friends over at Citadel, who backed Melvin with billions.


Cheers,

Max.

(on a side Note: just me or is everyone seeing adds now on OF?!)
 
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You can't predict the future, we can only go by the number of EOs in Biden's first ten days. In that count Biden is champion, bar none More important is the significance of Biden's orders, that's an argument for another day. Unity!!!, or something.

Past performance is no guarantee of future results 😉
 
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Looks like it's going to open down around 40% today circa $135