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Are you a troll? Who is saying that it cannot reach 100m? Its tested at the factory to that level.

A troll? Many reviews show that it hasn’t survived 100m...
 
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I don’t see what the big deal is when no one on the face of the planet will use an AQUA TERRA as part of their PROFESSIONAL DIVING EQUIPMENT... Unless they’re highly untrained, and that’s a different topic all together.
Does it say it’s rated for 150m? Yes, because it’s tested IN-HOUSE with results to back it up. You’re arguing for the sake of arguing.
 
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This would imply a failure of training, and a failure of the salesperson. There is no reason to buy a dive watch without a dive bezel, none at all. 2nd max depth for a recreational diver is 40m... but that is the second level of certification, 18m is the max for new divers freash out of training. Anyone going below 40m has advanced training and would never make this error.
The point is these up to 100m watches are not suitable for any type of deep use so don’t promote them as if they are
 
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Look, a watch without a dive bezel, regardless of its depth rating isn't a dive watch. As per ISO 6425 a 'Dive Watch' must be rated to at least 100m and have a fail safe method of timing the dive.

That's why no one at Omega calls the Aqua Terra a dive Watch.

But, if you flop in and dive down to 30m, or 50m+ if you're experienced, with your Suunto on one wrist and realise you accidentally left your 100m Aqua Terra on your other wrist, it will be fine.
 
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A troll? Many reviews show that it hasn’t survived 100m...
please cite examples of watches that have gone past 100m and not survived.... I will not be holding my breath. I'm a very experienced diver that owned a shop, and know many technical divers, I can count on one hand the people I have met that have exceeded 90m.

Please show examples of non dive watches failing while diving if they have been maintained properly, again I will not hold my breath. Please do not include non diving chronos as previously explained.


The point is these up to 100m watches are not suitable for any type of deep use so don’t promote them as if they are

THEY ARE NOT PROMOTING THEM FOR DIVE USE BY YOUR OWN WORDS...

That’s not what the chart says.........submerged in water does not mean you can dive to 100m for example.....confusing isn’t it!

Your just a troll...
 
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Apologies if I am incorrect in my understanding, but you seem to be separating swimming from actual--actual--diving, yes? Not diving under the water for 10-20 feet when you're at the beach, or falling off your jetski, etc. Because those are the sorts of activities most people want to know their watch can handle. But then you keep going on about these normal non-anoraks as if the same normal non-anoraks (in terms of watches) are on the other hand serious (anorak) scuba divers who somehow think it's a good idea to rely on minimally water-resistance-rated mechanical watches on their dives. No experienced modern-day scuba diver does that. It doesn't make any sense in reality. You seem quite concerned with a situation that seems FAR less likely to ever even occur (people taking such watches to such depths) than the chances of one of those watches failing in the process of going to those depths.

Further, you've mentioned several times a scenario where someone is "in court," over a failed watch, having to argue back and forth about the meaning of a depth chart and whether or not a warranty claim is valid. Pardon my ignorance, but how, exactly, do we figure that Omega et. al. would even know how deep you took a watch that you brought in for service due to it leaking? In other words, the people who buy such watches aren't going anywhere near those depths, and people who do go to those depths don't use these types of watches--because as experienced, certified divers, they know the reasons why they use the equipment they use and why they don't use the equipment they don't.
I agree, my point is what depth can I go to with the up to 100m watches and not just omega, and be covered if it does fail as in the case of the original post. Out of goodwill I have no doubt that omega would be fine but What about other less reputable brands? Perhaps just put 10m or 20m etc..... these big depth numbers are misleading
 
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Because you knob it is tested to that level in house using testing equipment... Its marketing and tested to that level... Look up the history of depth ratings in the Swiss watch industry and learn the history and tech race that has been going on for years... there is nothing the Swiss like more then history and holding to tradition.

The Rolex Deep Sea does not say 10,898.4 m on it, which it has achieved, but 3,900 which is the level they can test it too.
So I’m a knob ......well done couldn’t debate so just abused...... your brave behind your keyboard perhaps you wouldn’t use those words if we were face to face
 
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I agree, my point is what depth can I go to with the up to 100m watches and not just omega, and be covered if it does fail as in the case of the original post. Out of goodwill I have no doubt that omega would be fine but What about other less reputable brands? Perhaps just put 10m or 20m etc..... these big depth numbers are misleading
Couldn’t of said it better, I love omega don’t get me wrong! But what about the not so well known brands? Who knows!
 
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So I’m a knob ......well done couldn’t debate so just abused...... your brave behind your keyboard perhaps you wouldn’t use those words if we were face to face
That was likely a typo or autocorrect, as the context implies the word should have been 'know'. But could have been one of those Freudian things... 😁
 
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So I’m a knob ......well done couldn’t debate so just abused...... your brave behind your keyboard perhaps you wouldn’t use those words if we were face to face

@Foo2rama bless you. All brave behind a screen, just mad cos your points were invalid👍
 
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So I’m a knob ......well done couldn’t debate so just abused...... your brave behind your keyboard perhaps you wouldn’t use those words if we were face to face
No you are because you are trying to argue both sides of something, while not understanding why a watch has 100m on it, and failing to listen to anybody that is trying to help you understand, you have a wrong preconceived notion that you refuse to see as being incorrect even with overwhelming proof you are wrong.

And you don't know me, I fully would say that to your face and most likely alot more if you made arguments like that to me and went in circles completely ignoring what multiple people where telling you. I have zero issue calling stupidity out or standing up to anyone. Ill call you an idiot, then make sure you are a competent diver and take you diving even. Then if you are a competent diver I'll even compliment you.

@Foo2rama bless you. All brave behind a screen, just mad cos your points were invalid👍
What point was invalid again troll?
 
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This would imply a failure of training, and a failure of the salesperson. There is no reason to buy a dive watch without a dive bezel, none at all. 2nd max depth for a recreational diver is 40m... but that is the second level of certification, 18m is the max for new divers freash out of training. Anyone going below 40m has advanced training and would never make this error.
You rarely see a salesperson online,
 
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No you are because you are trying to argue both sides of something, while not understanding why a watch has 100m on it, and failing to listen to anybody that is trying to help you understand, you have a wrong preconceived notion that you refuse to see as being incorrect even with overwhelming proof you are wrong.

And you don't know me, I fully would say that to your face and most likely alot more if you made arguments like that to me and went in circles completely ignoring what multiple people where telling you. I have zero issue calling stupidity out or standing up to anyone. Ill call you an idiot, then make sure you are a competent diver and take you diving even. Then if you are a competent diver I'll even compliment you.


What point was invalid again troll?

What is this constant use of the word “troll” new word learnt?
 
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Couldn’t of said it better, I love omega don’t get me wrong! But what about the not so well known brands? Who knows!

So all makers should put depth ratings on their watches that grossly understate their real capabilities, just because a few cheap brands might not pass a proper pressure test at the deeper rating?

Well not much logic in that idea...
 
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So all makers should put depth ratings on their watches that grossly understate their real capabilities, just because a few cheap brands might not pass a proper pressure test at the deeper rating?

Well not much logic in that idea...

Didn’t quite say that. I’m saying that all watch brands should state the truth. Not saying that the bigger ones lie.
 
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I don’t see what the big deal is when no one on the face of the planet will use an AQUA TERRA as part of their PROFESSIONAL DIVING EQUIPMENT... Unless they’re highly untrained, and that’s a different topic all together.
Does it say it’s rated for 150m? Yes, because it’s tested IN-HOUSE with results to back it up. You’re arguing for the sake of arguing.
It’s not about the watches we know are dive watches it’s more how deep can you go with the first group on the chart? And still be covered if you have an issue! Nobody has actually been able to say so I’m saying it’s not fair to put 100m on those watches,
 
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Didn’t quite say that. I’m saying that all watch brands should state the truth. Not saying that the bigger ones lie.

Easy solution mate...only buy from reputable brands and you are good.