Surely that's not correct? A watch being rated to 100m must surely be able to withstand not just water ingress, but also the associated changes in pressure and temperature.
Now your getting it,,,, ,,,,
So you want a rotating bezel on the AT? In addition to being happy you don't decide the warranty claims, I'm also glad you are not in their design department...
I think the stance you are taking can be summarized by "I wanna complain!"
why? its a water rating not a suitability rating for a purpose like the ISO standard is.
why? its a water rating not a suitability rating for a purpose like the ISO standard is.
As I keep saying......a normal non anorak customer looks for a watch to take with him on his first diving holiday abroad, likes the look of a watch on the internet which is promoted as 100m, it is fair to assume that he may think it’s good for his first dive, watch breaks and customer returns it, .....seller, what were you doing with it,.....customer, my first dive........ YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO Go DIVING WITH IT........... no refund or repair customer thousands of pounds out of pocket!!!
Don’t change the subject, I understand you are an expert with watches I’m not so sure your great with marketing or the law,
A watch purchase is a big thing and to mislead someone into a purchase Is wrong, I’m not saying make all watches waterproof just make the ones in the grey area I have pointed out better and perhaps more fairly described, your opinion wouldn’t amount to much if I were trying to get compensated for misusing my watch.
As I keep saying......a normal non anorak customer looks for a watch to take with him on his first diving holiday abroad, likes the look of a watch on the internet which is promoted as 100m, it is fair to assume that he may think it’s good for his first dive, watch breaks and customer returns it, .....seller, what were you doing with it,.....customer, my first dive........ YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO Go DIVING WITH IT........... no refund or repair customer thousands of pounds out of pocket!!!
I'm going to leave it here as I don't want to be grouped in with the other chap, but a 300m rated watch can't be called a dive watch without the timing bezel. I get that and agree with it.
However, there is no such element for a free diving watch, apart from the depth rating.
According to Omegas own chart, the only difference between a watch rated for immersion and one rated for free diving is the depth rating. All I can't think here is that free divers regularly exceed 30/50m, so Omega specify a deeper rated watch for that activity.
What's crucial here though is that an Omega rated to 50m properly maintained, will be fine at that depth and you'll be fine with a warranty claim if it fails.
Hoteheels - you keep going on about misleading info/advertising on a big purchase but who/what is misleading?
Good god man! Read the bloody responses.
No one is saying you can't dive with a 100m watch. Barring any QC issues it will be fine at that depth. The issue is that for diving safety, nothing to do with water resistance of the watch, but the ability to time a dive, it cannot be sold as a 'Dive Watch' as 100m watches from Omega don't have a timing bezel.
That is the issue with calling it a dive watch. Nothing to do with water resistance.
You're making this hypothetical leap to "100m watch breaks on first dive". When has this happened?
The misleading part is it is not made clear that you can’t go 100m down with a 100m watch. Yes it may be capable of that but if there is a problem with your watch it may not be covered for repair or replacement, i cannot see anywhere where I would be covered as they have stated don’t do it, on the chart for example,.........I can take the stick from the experts that doesn’t bother me but what would is if I lost thousands of pounds. This has never been about omega specifically but the whole industry as they all play the same game......a friend of mine is having a similar problem that the original poster had but with another brand.
Good god man! Read the bloody responses.
No one is saying you can't dive with a 100m watch. Barring any QC issues it will be fine at that depth. The issue is that for diving safety, nothing to do with water resistance of the watch, but the ability to time a dive, it cannot be sold as a 'Dive Watch' as 100m watches from Omega don't have a timing bezel.
That is the issue with calling it a dive watch. Nothing to do with water resistance.
You're making this hypothetical leap to "100m watch breaks on first dive". When has this happened?
Please show where in the warranty booklet taking a watch to 99m and the watch flooding exceeding the warranty?
"A watch’s water resistance cannot be permanently guaranteed. It may be affected by the ageing of gaskets or by an accidental shock to one of the components assuring the water resistance such as crown, pushers and crystal.
As stipulated in our service instructions, we recommend you have the water resistance of your OMEGA watch checked once a year by an approved OMEGA service center."
THEY CANNOT SAY A WATCH IS SUITABLE FOR LIFE SUPPORT DUTY WHILE DIVING WITHOUT GETTING INTO TROUBLE. Nowhere does it say water intrusion claim will not be warranted. Second of all how are you going to break even 30m ok 33m while diving? Suitable for diving is a very specific claim that implies more then a depth rating. Every watch over 120m that Omega has every special thing for diving suitability save 1 LE.
No one has heard of a water intrusion claims being denied under warranty even if the water test was not done.
This implies a massive failure in training, and as a Dive Master and former owner of a dive shop I cannot see this happening. As the training manuals for PADI and NAUI clearly show the use of the dive bezel on a dive watch. That being said the watch will be fine at that depth, just that Omega will not legally imply that it is good for use as life support equipment while diving.
You don’t understand what he’s saying. A customer will find a watch that he likes, and thinks “oh 100m depth” but that doesn’t mean find the nearest ocean and test it. It’s a watch it’s not meant to be used for diving... meaning the customer has got an expensive watch that is pointless having. Mislead by the salesman...
As I keep saying......a normal non anorak customer looks for a watch to take with him on his first diving holiday abroad, likes the look of a watch on the internet which is promoted as 100m, it is fair to assume that he may think it’s good for his first dive, watch breaks and customer returns it, .....seller, what were you doing with it,.....customer, my first dive........ YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO Go DIVING WITH IT........... no refund or repair customer thousands of pounds out of pocket!!!
So why put 100m on a watch........what are you actually expecting the customer to take that as? I would expect that as long as I had the watch maintained as advised by the manufacturer then gasket failure etc should not be an issue, the issue is not about DIVING it’s about what the 100m says to the customer and if it leads them to believe it’s good for 100m then warranty it if not very simple don’t put 109m on non dive watches
So why put 100m on a watch........what are you actually expecting the customer to take that as? I would expect that as long as I had the watch maintained as advised by the manufacturer then gasket failure etc should not be an issue, the issue is not about DIVING it’s about what the 100m says to the customer and if it leads them to believe it’s good for 100m then warranty it if not very simple don’t put 109m on non dive watches
This would imply a failure of training, and a failure of the salesperson. There is no reason to buy a dive watch without a dive bezel, none at all. 2nd max depth for a recreational diver is 40m... but that is the second level of certification, 18m is the max for new divers freash out of training. Anyone going below 40m has advanced training and would never make this error.
Fine you want the weasel out of it from a MFG... "the watch was not checked as stated every year for water resistance and then used for a purpose other then approved." or "the watch was a non diving chrono and used for diving." As a chrono with 60m water resistance can go to normal diving limits... accidentally knock the chrono pusher and you have a very bad day as in the manual ALL non diving chronos specifically state do not press the chrono pusher under water, or go diving with them. Or the manual and warranty specifically stated for that MFG not for diving use. To make the claim that all mfg's are like this from your friends so far non specific issue is bonkers.
“Puts 100M on the watch” I’m not saying it’s a failure of training. I’m implying that they should not put 100M on the watch when it can no where near survive that...
So your fine with promoting a non dive watch as good for 100m with no warranty if you do have a problem, and I’m talking about watch issue as the original poster has not user error
