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First Omega In Space (2012 Speedmaster) FOIS, Roll Call

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This really kills off my want for the EW321.
I feel the same. It works out perfectly for those who wanted the new 321 in a way that you purchase this and then a vintage 321.
 
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texasmade texasmade
This really kills off my want for the EW321.
If this new one is an acceptable substitution for a 321, go for it, and you save $7,500. But will you be satisfied in the long run? Really satisfied?
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If this new one is an acceptable substitution for a 321, go for it, and you save $7,500. But will you be satisfied in the long run? Really satisfied?
Given the fact that I'll never be able to get one from my OB and can only get GM now, yes I would be. I know I can easily get one now on C24 but my desire for paying over retail or spending that much on a watch has decreased quite a bit.
 
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Given the fact that I'll never be able to get one from my OB and can only get GM now, yes I would be. I know I can easily get one now on C24 but my desire for paying over retail or spending that much on a watch has decreased quite a bit.
Fair enough, but as I always say, Omega (or any company) doesn't set the market value, the market sets the value. A Rolex Daytona is a good example, Rolex sells them for about $15,000 but no one can get one for that price, the market says they are worth twice that. If I really wanted one I would have to decide if I wanted to pay the market value or not. MSRP is a fictional value, the market value is usually lower but some products trade at a higher value. An Omega EW321 and most Rolexes are higher, I just can't get stuck on the idea that I'll never pay over MSRP for something I really want. The 'S' is the 'suggested' price, that's the beauty of capitalism.
 
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If this new one is an acceptable substitution for a 321, go for it, and you save $7,500. But will you be satisfied in the long run? Really satisfied?
Surely that argument could be made to ask 321 owners if they are truly satisfied with a facsimile of the real thing. The 321 doesn’t have the monopoly on retro cool.
 
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texasmade texasmade
This really kills off my want for the EW321.
Agree -- I'd cancel my order from shortly after launch, but I have no expectation of that order ever being fulfilled, so won't brother.

This new model s a beaut, but it's pricey here in Canada, at CAD 10,700, 200 bucks less than the sapphire sandwich.

Will definitely join the club at some point, but in the meantime happy to enjoy my OG FOIS. which has gone everywhere with me for years and is still running like a dream. I love the inky-black dial of the OG, and the detailed caseback, and will def investigate the new version bracelet if it's compatible as hoped.

Looking forward to seeing some photos and hearing impressions of these in the wild, and to picking one up at some point. Def a homerun and should be a nice boost for Omega. Congrats to early adopters -- and special congrats to those who own both!
 
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So the big question for me is... will the bracelet on this new FOIS fit the older FOIS.
Here is your answer:

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Surely that argument could be made to ask 321 owners if they are truly satisfied with a facsimile of the real thing. The 321 doesn’t have the monopoly on retro cool.
That argument could be made, but you are assuming that anything less than a vintage Ed White is second class. I've been collecting watches for over 40 years and have had many vintage watches, along with the headaches of finding unmolested examples and getting them properly serviced. The new 321 Ed White stands on its own, it can be worn everyday and I don't have to worry about it getting damaged. I know Omega will service it for longer than I have left on earth. Of course the 321 has no monopoly on cool. This new model is a great effort, and if looks is the prime motivator it is a good option. They are two different watches playing to two different markets, there are enough customers for each, probably far more in the FOIS camp due to pricing. No problem there, everybody has to balance desires and budgets.
 
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That argument could be made, but you are assuming that anything less than a vintage Ed White is second class. I've been collecting watches for over 40 years and have had many vintage watches, along with the headaches of finding unmolested examples and getting them properly serviced. The new 321 Ed White stands on its own, it can be worn everyday and I don't have to worry about it getting damaged. I know Omega will service it for longer than I have left on earth. Of course the 321 has no monopoly on cool. This new model is a great effort, and if looks is the prime motivator it is a good option. They are two different watches playing to two different markets, there are enough customers for each, probably far more in the FOIS camp due to pricing. No problem there, everybody has to balance desires and budgets.
Amen to this. Well put.
 
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Why not both? 😀 They are pretty distinct; take one on a strap, the other on a bracelet and there you go.
 
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Scarecrow Boat Scarecrow Boat
Here is your answer:

IMG_3491.jpeg
Ah lame. I suspected the new FOIS would be using the same case/bracelet as the 321 Ed White.

Oh well. Maybe i can at lease order the adjustable clasp to use on my bracelet.
 
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texasmade texasmade
Smart or greedy of Omega to not have the new flat link fit the old FOIS.
Could always try swapping in the end links from a FOIS aftermarket bracelet I guess.
 
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I really enjoy my 2012 FOIS and not looking to change, but there are a lot of details I like in the new one. I'd love to swap some parts in, I'm guessing interchangeability is as follows?

Interchangeable
Sapphire crystal (new one is so much better), assuming same 34.2mm diameter - I really want to do this one
Dial (but certain elements don't work and need to use existing, like the chrono seconds) - Cool, not a fan of fauxtina

Not interchangeable
Caseback
Bezel insert (I wish but heard 3861 and 861/1861 don't mix?)
Bracelet
 
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Anyone else ashamed of owning the 2012 FOIS now that the new version is out?
 
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Anyone else ashamed of owning the 2012 FOIS now that the new version is out?
Haha. Not me. Still love mine to bits. I'm also glad I got mine before the price of Omega watches went bananas. 5 years ago the previous generation FOIS had a retail price that was almost half that of the current one. The 2024 edition is a beautiful piece, but it's now way out of my budget.
 
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Anyone else ashamed of owning the 2012 FOIS now that the new version is out?
Absolutely not, the OG version is in some ways preferred as the artificial patina in the hands of the new version is a bit of a disappointment to me.
 
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The new one is nice but I still love my OG version. I just wish they had given the new one a slightly different name, like FOIS Gen 2 or something.
 
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Anyone else ashamed of owning the 2012 FOIS now that the new version is out?
Definitely not. The more pictures of the new watch I see, the less I like it. Orange lume (yuck). And the soliel dial in bright light is way too reflective. It makes the watch way too blingy for my tastes. The only improvements IMO are the crystal (which never bothered me) and the movement (which I plan to get via a Speedy Pro purchase next year). I fully intend to keep my current edition FOiS as a special occasion watch.
 
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