FedEx Lost/Stolen watch

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+1. I had a watch serviced in Canada, so the watch went through customs. The watchmaker returned it using FedEx, whereupon it disappeared. Weeks went by and we were notified that it was held in customs because forms were not completed, which of course they were. It took many, many phone calls, with each new phone call starting at the beginning, as if it was the first contact.

Eventually someone figured things out and the watch arrived. Soon after, I received a fee for duties, as if I had purchased the watch, as opposed to getting it serviced. What's more, they charged me storage fees for the month or so they had it. Several exchanges with customer service followed and the agent eventually agreed to drop the fees. A month later I received a delinquent invoice. After contacting the same agent he claimed there was a misunderstanding and he never agreed to drop the fees.

Fedex. Main they learn how quickly a reputation can be ruined.
I’ve had FedEx lose the paperwork before, but to date they have never lost a watch, or even had one delayed by more than a day or two past the scheduled delivery date.
 
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I was under the (long-standing) impression that FedEx does not insure high value jewelry or watches. Hence ParcelPro, and other third-party insurers.

Has something changed?

Last I read the terms before I completely abandoned FedEx, was that any coverage, warranty, guarantee, insurance was void if FedEx or one of their agents didn't pack the shipment. They'll absolutely sell the full insurance to you, but if you bring it ready to go and sealed up, they'll (potentially?) have a reason to deny any responsibility. I did ship a watch via FedEx International Priority Express to a German customer last year and everything worked out. Shipped it from a FedEx Office and made sure the receipt showed a packing and supplies charge. They packed the watch box very well for what it's worth.
 
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FedEx is generally a great company. I am shocked that USPS would be recommended over FedEx. Any carrier's insurance does seem difficult though.
 
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They had no problem insuring it for $400.
I believe that $500 is the maximum for personal accounts.

From their site:

FedEx Declared Value Advantage is only available to eligible customers on a contractual basis for US business account holders shipping jewelry 2-3 times a week (personal accounts do not qualify). One-time jewelry or other high-value commodity shipping needs are not eligible for this service.
 
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FedEx is generally a great company. I am shocked that USPS would be recommended over FedEx. Any carrier's insurance does seem difficult though.
My two claims with USPS - countless packages over 25 years - were very easy to settle satisfactorily. When a registered package I sent got lost for several days, I was able to speak with actual people in the Chicago offices and it was found and delivered that day. FedEx is good if you pay for their very best priority shipping and good for documents, flat envelopes, etc. because that limits your exposure to their overall service. Their customer service is terrible.
 
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My two claims with USPS - countless packages over 25 years - were very easy to settle satisfactorily. When a registered package I sent got lost for several days, I was able to speak with actual people in the Chicago offices and it was found and delivered that day. FedEx is good if you pay for their very best priority shipping and good for documents, flat envelopes, etc. because that limits your exposure to their overall service. Their customer service is terrible.
Where I live, FedEx customer service is incredible, and USPS is one of the jokes of the town for the past decade. You walk into a USPS and they glare at you, for starters. It doesn't end there. They are angry you are in their little kingdom. Mail arrives maybe 3, 4 days a week, the sorting center is infamous for stealing things from packages, packages get lost, they don't show up and claim the same mailbox that's always there was inaccessible.

Point is, service really depends on who you're talking to. I can totally believe that where you are, USPS is way better than FedEx, but it's not true across the country.
 
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Where I live, FedEx customer service is incredible, and USPS is one of the jokes of the town for the past decade. You walk into a USPS and they glare at you, for starters. It doesn't end there. They are angry you are in their little kingdom. Mail arrives maybe 3, 4 days a week, the sorting center is infamous for stealing things from packages, packages get lost, they don't show up and claim the same mailbox that's always there was inaccessible.

Point is, service really depends on who you're talking to. I can totally believe that where you are, USPS is way better than FedEx, but it's not true across the country.
FedEx is useless if you want to ship watches from their insurance. Good luck also if you need to speak with a FedEx employee on the phone. USPS is great generally, but especially if you need to insure a very expensive watch using registered mail.
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My general experience with FedEx in the UK is that when things run fine (most of the time, they’re fine), but any issues, or to try and arrange collecting a package from the depot - their customer service is appalling.
 
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It’s seems to be hard to get clear data as “lost/stolen” are hard to break down due to the way certain things are reported. But I inquired about world wide numbers maybe someone can find better analysis.
I had a nice vintage Seiko go “missing/lost” during shipment a year or two ago but the seller refunded me so quickly I didn’t get to ask him how insurance etc treated him. Nice darn seller.
 
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It’s seems to be hard to get clear data as “lost/stolen” are hard to break down due to the way certain things are reported. But I inquired about world wide numbers maybe someone can find better analysis.
I had a nice vintage Seiko go “missing/lost” during shipment a year or two ago but the seller refunded me so quickly I didn’t get to ask him how insurance etc treated him. Nice darn seller.
Unfortunately for my buyer I was slower on issuing a refund, having just done so this past week, when it became obvious that FedEx was never going to honor the contract they entered into with me. I placed my hope in FedEx quickly resolving the issue since it was obvious from the get go that they were at fault. That was just naivety on my part and in the future I will purchase third party insurance. No I will make myself a nuisance and see if that gets their attention.
 
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Unfortunately for my buyer I was slower on issuing a refund, having just done so this past week, when it became obvious that FedEx was never going to honor the contract they entered into with me. I placed my hope in FedEx quickly resolving the issue since it was obvious from the get go that they were at fault. That was just naivety on my part and in the future I will purchase third party insurance. No I will make myself a nuisance and see if that gets their attention.
Just an FYI my post was not meant to reflect on your status as a seller. I just got curious of what the “official” number of lost packages are. As far as that particular seller I think he just automatically refunded me as soon as the package was marked “lost” I didn’t request it and was prepared to wait let him sort things out. I think he must have had third party insurance he knew would make him whole in the end as no company refunds that quick that I know of.

I was actually hoping the watch would show and I could send the dude his money back, I wanted the watch more than I did the money. However if FedEx loses 8.2% of packages that represents a big number. Seems that could include porch pirates which is a 12 billion dollar a year loss which in that case I imagine falls on the consumer in most cases. Fortunately I have not yet got hit by porch pirates but damn they are scum.
 
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Just an FYI my post was not meant to reflect on your status as a seller. I just got curious of what the “official” number of lost packages are. As far as that particular seller I think he just automatically refunded me as soon as the package was marked “lost” I didn’t request it and was prepared to wait let him sort things out. I think he must have had third party insurance he knew would make him whole in the end as no company refunds that quick that I know of.

I was actually hoping the watch would show and I could send the dude his money back, I wanted the watch more than I did the money. However if FedEx loses 8.2% of packages that represents a big number. Seems that could include porch pirates which is a 12 billion dollar a year loss which in that case I imagine falls on the consumer in most cases. Fortunately I have not yet got hit by porch pirates but damn they are scum.
I didn't think it was. Since we are getting into talks of refunds now, I figured full disclosure would be best. I started this conversation, and I am finding it to be helpful in guiding future business on my end. Since I've never had a lost item that I have sold someone over the years, I really was a bit of a naive seller going into this one. So, I appreciate hearing about other people's responses as a seller.

I suppose I am lucky when it comes to porch pirates as well. We've never had any around my town, but that could always change.
 
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Sorry about this. My local DHL can pack my watch for free at their store when shipping, so that's my route. At least I have video evidence of them packing the watch at their own store they ship if things go south.
 
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Just an FYI my post was not meant to reflect on your status as a seller. I just got curious of what the “official” number of lost packages are. As far as that particular seller I think he just automatically refunded me as soon as the package was marked “lost” I didn’t request it and was prepared to wait let him sort things out. I think he must have had third party insurance he knew would make him whole in the end as no company refunds that quick that I know of.

I was actually hoping the watch would show and I could send the dude his money back, I wanted the watch more than I did the money. However if FedEx loses 8.2% of packages that represents a big number. Seems that could include porch pirates which is a 12 billion dollar a year loss which in that case I imagine falls on the consumer in most cases. Fortunately I have not yet got hit by porch pirates but damn they are scum.
They don't lose 8.2%, that would be insane. And that's AI telling you that 8.2% are not on time. Less than 1% are marked as lost or damaged, and of that less than 1%, the majority of that is damaged, not lost.

On time performance just varies. In December 2024, FedEx was on time 91.8%, but was 98.3% in December 2023. But again, on time/late is not delivered/lost.
 
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Where I live, FedEx customer service is incredible, and USPS is one of the jokes of the town for the past decade. You walk into a USPS and they glare at you, for starters. It doesn't end there. They are angry you are in their little kingdom. Mail arrives maybe 3, 4 days a week, the sorting center is infamous for stealing things from packages, packages get lost, they don't show up and claim the same mailbox that's always there was inaccessible.

Point is, service really depends on who you're talking to. I can totally believe that where you are, USPS is way better than FedEx, but it's not true across the country.

My parents who live in a very rural area rely on contracted employees and it's not great. It shouldn't matter because they represent the USPS, but it unfortunately does. I live in what is classed as a rural area, but they're all actual employees. For now. I assume those I spoke with in Chicago were also.

FedEx is useless if you want to ship watches from their insurance. Good luck also if you need to speak with a FedEx employee on the phone. USPS is great generally, but especially if you need to insure a very expensive watch using registered mail.

That's why unless the buyer is willing to accept the risk, I always ship registered mail within the US. For repeat buyers, I've used Priority Express.
 
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Not good for you I realise, but you did the right thing. It may still turn up so keep an eye on the tracking now and then. I don't blame you for waiting a while before giving up and repaying, sometimes couriers are just super late, I guess not here. It sucks for sure.

Keep at them for some kind of compensation. Call until they are sick of you and pay you out to go away.
 
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After a review of the additional documents I supplied, including the email from the FedEx rep in England stating that they lost the watch, FedEx has decided to pay out the $400 in insurance but not the $193 in shipping. They do not consider themselves in breach of contract on the shipping, despite not delivering the watch. A bit is better than nothing and I am going to stay on them about the shipping.

It will take them up to thirty days to mail me a check. I hope they use USPS and not their own services, because I'd hate for that to get lost as well.
 
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After a review of the additional documents I supplied, including the email from the FedEx rep in England stating that they lost the watch, FedEx has decided to pay out the $400 in insurance but not the $193 in shipping. They do not consider themselves in breach of contract on the shipping, despite not delivering the watch. A bit is better than nothing and I am going to stay on them about the shipping.

It will take them up to thirty days to mail me a check. I hope they use USPS and not their own services, because I'd hate for that to get lost as well.
How can they say that to you with a straight face. They are charging you $193 to lose your property? Unbelievable. As you say though, something is better than nothing. Keep pushing, their stance is unsustainable without a verified delivery or return surely.
 
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After a review of the additional documents I supplied, including the email from the FedEx rep in England stating that they lost the watch, FedEx has decided to pay out the $400 in insurance but not the $193 in shipping. They do not consider themselves in breach of contract on the shipping, despite not delivering the watch. A bit is better than nothing and I am going to stay on them about the shipping.

It will take them up to thirty days to mail me a check. I hope they use USPS and not their own services, because I'd hate for that to get lost as well.

That is quite amazing.
 
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They don't lose 8.2%, that would be insane. And that's AI telling you that 8.2% are not on time. Less than 1% are marked as lost or damaged, and of that less than 1%, the majority of that is damaged, not lost.

On time performance just varies. In December 2024, FedEx was on time 91.8%, but was 98.3% in December 2023. But again, on time/late is not delivered/lost.
Frig I asked “lost” what kind of BS is either spell check or AI playing with me