Family Heirloom Damaged by ASC

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Omega boutique in Vancouver, Canada sent my deceased father’s Seamaster to the authorized Omega service centre in Toronto.

I inherited this watch from my Dad 16 years ago and wanted to get the watch in top condition before passing it onto my 21 year old son.

After retrieving the watch back from the local boutique, we noticed that the crystal of the watch was not flush. It was raised on one side. Immediately it was returned to the boutique so it could be sent back to Toronto to fix the issue.

After one month I reached out to Omega. I received an absolutely devastating email from Jo-Anne Wilson,

Omega/Prestige customer care team lead. In a very nonchalant and insensitive manner, she told me that, “During the servicing, the bezel of your watch accidentally was damaged.” She went on to tell me that, “the bezel will be replaced free of charge” and that “Omega will also provide a brand new sapphire crystal free of charge.” Wow!!! Isn’t that nice of her!!!! Written as though she is doing ME a favour!

I responded to Jo-Anne saying that, This absolutely breaks my heart. I wanted to give my son the watch in its original condition that my father wore every single day for many years. Now, I cannot do it.

Joanne sincerely apologized and at my request set up a telephone call with her and Hazem Sbayteh, Country Manager & Omega Brand Manager, Swatch Group Canada.

A few days later Jo-Anne called me and told me that Hazem was very busy and that he wouldn’t be taking part in the phone call. I was very disappointed considering the circumstances. This was my first hint as to how Omega values and treats its customers.

During our conversation, Jo-Anne offered me a golf hat or a pen as compensation for the damage. I politely declined and told her that I could get a complementary pen at my Dentist’s office. I have actually never been so insulted in my life. She then offered to extend the service warranty by one year. She also told me my service fee would be refunded. What a complete joke! This should absolutely be done, not as compensation, but just should be done because of the amateur that was working on my Dad’s watch, not once but twice. Did they send me the damaged bezel with the crooked crystal hoping I wouldn’t notice? This is probably the case or their standards are extremely low and have zero quality control.

Then she offered me a free service. Telling me in the future I can send the watch for service to her attention and then she would oversee service rather than the watch, “just being another watch in the queue.” If this is truly how Omega views their customer’s timepieces, just as another watch in the queue, it is an absolute travesty. It is unfathomable that Jo-Anne could even say this out loud to a customer.

I spoke to a couple of ADs of other watch brands and to some friends who are avid watch collectors and they were absolutely horrified by my experience.

I told Jo-Anne that I wanted to speak with Hazem. A few days later, Hazem called me. Things went from bad to worse!

During our first conversation, Hazem made the obligatory apology and told me that he would have a serious conversation with Jo-Anne. After spending many minutes with me on the phone telling me how great their service department is and how sorry he is and how they could reinstall the damaged bezel because the watch would be waterproof even with the crooked crystal, which I declined, he asked me what fair compensation would be. My watch collecting friends told me that fair and reasonable compensation for damaging such an important family heirloom would be for Omega to give my son a watch, that had not been damaged, so he could start his own legacy/tradition. I relayed this to Hazem. Hazem wanted to think about this and told me that he would call me back the following week.

When I never heard from him, I emailed him and he finally called me back. He told me that he could not offer me a watch. He said that he could send the watch to Switzerland and have the original bezel fixed. This was never offered to me and he has no intention of doing it as the watch had already been sent back to Vancouver. Then he repeated several times what they did for me, refunded my service fee, adding one year to the warranty and replaced the bezel that they damaged free of charge. This is exactly what they should do. This is not compensation for all the inconvenience and the sadness that me and my family have endured over them damaging my dad’s timepiece. He did not understand the difference between what Omega should do and compensation.

He also tried to say that they did not damage the time piece! I have it in writing from Jo-Anne that they absolutely did!! The crystal was completely flush, and the damage was not there when we sent it in for service. Again Hazem not taking responsibility, even though I already had it in writing from Jo-Anne.

In summary, please be very wary and have your local boutique do a full aesthetic inspection of your watch before sending it to the Omega Toronto service centre. Your valued watch will be treated, as Jo-Anne said, “just another watch in the queue.”
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That's an unfortunate story, but thinking appropriate compensation is giving your son a free watch is a little crazy.

There's a reason most people don't send vintage Omegas back to Omega for service.
 
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In your opinion, what would fair compensation entail? Surely not a hat or pen.
 
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In your opinion, what would fair compensation entail? Surely not a hat or pen.
Proper compensation would probably be to take them up on their offer- a free and correct service from Switzerland (as opposed to your local repair center), with the return of the old parts, a coupon for the next free service, then push for TWO free pens and hats for you and your son!
 
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unfortunately, I’m afraid to send them the watch again. I appreciate your response.
 
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Please provide photos of the watch - before and after if you have them.

No matter what they tell you, all watches are just in the queue, just like they are in any brand's service center.
 
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I did not take photos. I understand that all watches are in the queue. It just raises red flags when she tells me that the watch would be treated differently with her name attached to it.
 
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What kind of watch is it? The truth is sometimes vintage watches are like a bag of bones. Parts have aged and worn over the decades and as soon as someone touches them, they can break, regardless as to how careful or competent someone is. This is particularly true of fixed bezels if they have been weakened by hidden corrosion. They are fine when left in situ but as some as someone touches them to remove them then can split. For example, is isn’t uncommon on seamaster devilles.

It doesn’t mean it’s terrible work. It’s just the nature and risk of vintage watches. If the replacement bezel and crystal are the same, I see that as reasonable compensation.

Of course pictures and more details of the model would help.
 
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They seem reasonable. They are not charging you for the service, will replace the parts for free, and give you a free service in the future.

That seems sufficient. Asking for a new watch is a little ridiculous. They won't have that watch available anymore, so did you just want to have your son go into a boutique and pick out a new one? Something tells me it might be an expensive one.
 
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They seem reasonable. They are not charging you for the service, will replace the parts for free, and give you a free service in the future.

That seems sufficient. Asking for a new watch is a little ridiculous. They won't have that watch available anymore, so did you just want to have your son go into a boutique and pick out a new one? Something tells me it might be an expensive one.

They seem reasonable. They are not charging you for the service, will replace the parts for free, and give you a free service in the future.

That seems sufficient. Asking for a new watch is a little ridiculous. They won't have that watch available anymore, so did you just want to have your son go into a boutique and pick out a new one? Something tells me it might be an expensive one.
Thank you. I appreciate your opinion. People in the industry and avid watch collectors told me that I should ask for this in compensation. And no, not an expensive one.
 
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Thank you. I appreciate your opinion. People in the industry and avid watch collectors told me that I should ask for this in compensation. And no, not an expensive one.
Well it didn't hurt to ask, but I think you've been fairly treated.

I'm sorry about the watch. Sucks to have it damaged.
 
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Thank you. I appreciate your opinion. People in the industry and avid watch collectors told me that I should ask for this in compensation. And no, not an expensive one.
If we had an idea of what watch they damaged, it would help us see what is reasonable. Is it truly vintage, as in something from the 60's or 70's, or is it something more recent like a 90's watch? What model is it? Quartz or mechanical?

Just looking through the Omega site, the cheapest watch I could find is a ladies quartz at about $3,600 Canadian. To get a mechanical men's model, you are looking at about double that from Omega's current line up. Without knowing what the value of the watch is that they damaged, knowing if that warrants a new $3.5 to $7K watch, is a bit difficult.

I realize this watch has sentimental value, but it appears that the watch is still functional and complete, but with a new bezel instead of the old one.
If you read the fine print of the service contract you approved, I suspect there is a line in there that states that Omega can replace parts on your watch with those of similar function (when the original part is discontinued), but they may not be exactly the same aesthetically. I know they used to have something of that nature in the estimate forms as late as 2019.

But if this is a more recent watch where all the parts are currently available, and the bezel they replaced is the same thing but just new, then really even that clause doesn't apply.

To clarify, no one is suggesting that damage to a watch is okay, but sometimes mistakes do happen. People working at the service centers are human, and humans are not perfect. People make mistakes everyday at their jobs - it's why doctor's have malpractice insurance. But to determine if your expectations are justified, we need more detail than what you are providing. In fact it seems odd that the model wasn't mentioned, even when people have been asking you.
 
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Well it didn't hurt to ask, but I think you've been fairly treated.

I'm sorry about the watch. Sucks to have it damaged.
Thank you. I appreciate your kind words.
 
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If we had an idea of what watch they damaged, it would help us see what is reasonable. Is it truly vintage, as in something from the 60's or 70's, or is it something more recent like a 90's watch? What model is it? Quartz or mechanical?

Just looking through the Omega site, the cheapest watch I could find is a ladies quartz at about $3,600 Canadian. To get a mechanical men's model, you are looking at about double that from Omega's current line up. Without knowing what the value of the watch is that they damaged, knowing if that warrants a new $3.5 to $7K watch, is a bit difficult.

I realize this watch has sentimental value, but it appears that the watch is still functional and complete, but with a new bezel instead of the old one.
If you read the fine print of the service contract you approved, I suspect there is a line in there that states that Omega can replace parts on your watch with those of similar function (when the original part is discontinued), but they may not be exactly the same aesthetically. I know they used to have something of that nature in the estimate forms as late as 2019.

But if this is a more recent watch where all the parts are currently available, and the bezel they replaced is the same thing but just new, then really even that clause doesn't apply.

To clarify, no one is suggesting that damage to a watch is okay, but sometimes mistakes do happen. People working at the service centers are human, and humans are not perfect. People make mistakes everyday at their jobs - it's why doctor's have malpractice insurance. But to determine if your expectations are justified, we need more detail than what you are providing. In fact it seems odd that the model wasn't mentioned, even when people have been asking you.
Thanks for your message. I’m currently not with the watch and do not, off the top of my head, know the model number. I will post later. Just want to add that I am completely at peace with this right now. I did not like how the situation was handled. Just wanted people to know about my personal experience and to take necessary precautions for their own time pieces.
 
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I'm really struggling to see what warrants compensation here. Assuming the original crystal was sapphire, this watch can't be more than about 30 years old and when you send a relatively modern piece like this (and for that matter most older stuff) to the official service centre parts get changed. The parts swapped in are not always identical. You signed up for that when you sent it in in the first place.

If you wanted to keep it all original, you shouldn't send it to Omega. If you want it to look as new you do. Simple as that really.
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I am wondering what kind of bezel this drama is about.
 
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I've had a few give up the ghost on re-assembly. It's always a risk.
 
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I'm really struggling to see what warrants compensation here. Assuming the original crystal was sapphire, this watch can't be more than about 30 years old and when you send a relatively modern piece like this (and for that matter most older stuff) to the official service centre parts get changed. The parts swapped in are not always identical. You signed up for that when you sent it in in the first place.

If you wanted to keep it all original, you shouldn't send it to Omega. I you want it to look as new you do. Simple as that really.
Thanks for your message. Just wanted to ensure it was running properly and to do that I thought it should be serviced since it hadn’t been for many years.
 
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I've had a few give up the ghost on re-assembly. It's always a risk.
At the time, I didn’t think there was any risk sending to an ASC. I’m really out of the loop on these things. Thanks for your comment.
 
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I am wondering what kind of bezel this drama is about.
No drama. Just sad that it happened to my Father’s watch.