Beware there are Planet Ocean Cal 8500 fakes of this type too now: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Seama...ail-Over-4k-/121727129110?hash=item1c57809616Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network Please report the listing but be aware that these are out there.
Yea I was thinking about that but I wanted to keep the discussion here tied in, I might edit the original post and thread title to reflect the update
Comparing my Master 300 to the one at the start of this thread, the bracelet is a dead give away. Also the lug not being stamped stainless steel, my S/N is 180° from this one (although that was discussed above). The movement looks really good, I can't see much different, but I am just a new guy. Will movements be mounted differently in each watch? I wouldn't think so, and this one is about 20 degrees off from mine, but the jewels and writing seam to match. The "waves" engraving on the rotor seams to be straight, and not with a slight turn though.. This fake looks to have a brushed crown, where my crown is polished. The "notches" to unscrew the back have more rounding in the corners, where mine are much sharper. Also the writing or printing on the case back looks thicker, but that could just be the lighting. Had I not had a real one to compare to, I might have been fooled by this one. I am glad I always buy watches through A/D.
What is wrong with this one? (i.e. Why do you think it's a fake?). It doesn't look as "quality" (duller looking crystal and bezel) as the ones I've seen from a boutique, but as a novice, I can't see the other obvious differences.
Pull up pics of a real one and start comparing, begin with the movement then move on to the dial, bezel and so on. First hint is the balance wheel, compare that to a real one, there's nothing right in it.
Just an FYI the "winning" offer was for way less than $3300, but I hope the buyer gets their money back once they realize that the piece is a complete phony.
Not sure if a lot of people outside the forums would know a fake, especially one that good. One the best things this forum does IMO is to get these fakes taken down before they sell.
If the buyers looked at the feedback of this seller, they would have found that this watch has already been returned as a fake and negative feedback left. Seller was bold enough to relist it exactly.......and apparently got away with it for now.
Short summary on how to spot a fake Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial (did my homework): - the crown on the fake is brushed and not polished as on the gen - the metal between the case and the bezel is brushed on the fake and not polished as on the gen - the serial number on the lug is upside down compared to the gen - the serial number on the case appears not to be consecutively numbered (it's always the same number) - 88510199 - the serial number on the movement appears not to be consecutively numbered (it's always the same number) - 85243048 - serial number on case and movement don't mach (contrary to the gen obviously) - the link next to the end link (on both sides) is engraved with the ref. number of the bracelet "STZ001145" (for the steel bracelet) on the gen, not so on the fake - there is no Omega engraving + again the ref. nr. of the bracelet engraved on the bottom side of the clasp-mechanism (where the little pin is) on the fake as contrary to the gen - there is no "stainless steal" engraving on the 7 o'clock lug on the fake compared to the gen - the movement in the fake is a Myota 8215 which is supposed to look like a 8400 - but of course, it doesn't. The most noticeable differenc; the Myota has its balance wheel on the 7 to 8 o'clock position compared to the balance wheel on the 8400 which is on the 6 o'clock position. The balance wheel on the 8400 is black due to its use of silicon and not "gold" as on the Myota. - the lume on the fake isn't correct - its all blue, including the bezel pearl. On the original the lume on the minute hand and on the pearl is greenish. (Some say that the fake-factories improved on that point, but I haven't seen a correct fake yet). - on the fake, the inner metal ring (the ring between the bezel and the crystal) isn't flush with the bezel - it "pops out" a bit so that there is a "gap" between the ring and bezel. Cheers, Paddington.
The happy ending to this story is that this seller sold it 3 times using the same pictures and got it back every time. Looks to have finally given up after 3 negatives.
Another fake with this style of movement: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201440218974?clk_rvr_id=914695501250&rmvSB=truePurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network Be VERY careful and if in doubt ask around.
That pic is absolutely NOT photoshopped. That is a genuine picture of a reproduction Omega. (Fake) One of the give aways is the non polished crown.
Be warned! I've just seen a Seamaster 300 Master-Co-Axial fake with an Eta movement. They also seem to have "fixed" the crown which is now polished. The underside of the clasp mechanism is now also engraved (but wrong). Color of lume seems to be fixed also.