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  1. fzhu052

    fzhu052 Mar 24, 2020

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    hello everyone, I just got a case that is claimed to be speedmaster. I knew the bezel is suspicious but was surprised when I got the case: it looks odd. See pictures. The profile looks different. So far I have never seen a fake case. Can you guys help me determine? The only thing I am not sure is that maybe it is from a very early asymmetric case era? I don’t have the moonbook at hand right now. Thanks!
     
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  2. sk0eric

    sk0eric Mar 24, 2020

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    it seems very thick....
     
  3. fzhu052

    fzhu052 Mar 24, 2020

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    Yes. Very thick and not much bevel on the back. I tried to screw up a back and it does not close by hand.
     
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  4. sk0eric

    sk0eric Mar 24, 2020

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    Well I am certainly no expert ,but based on what I am seeing and what you're telling me, it is likely fake.
     
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  5. sk0eric

    sk0eric Mar 24, 2020

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    Even looking on the underside of the tachy ring it looks totally bizarre. This has to be fake.
     
  6. gdupree

    gdupree Mar 24, 2020

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    It's for sure not an authentic moonwatch case, but its not out of the question that it could be from an automatic speedy of some sort. It's not the reduced, but there are lots of weird variations out there which have a similar look to this.
     
  7. fzhu052

    fzhu052 Mar 24, 2020

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    Size matches with a real one. I can’t think of another model that is so similar.
     
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  8. gdupree

    gdupree Mar 24, 2020

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    Yeah, again it is definitely not a moon watch case.

    How about this coaxial chronometer though?

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  9. zoohannover

    zoohannover Mar 24, 2020

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    Prototype? ;)
     
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  10. fzhu052

    fzhu052 Mar 24, 2020

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    Ah I think it is the Chronometer! Even bezel looks the same!
     
  11. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Mar 24, 2020

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    Quality of the machining looks like a replica case, regardless of the reference.
     
  12. abrod520

    abrod520 Mar 24, 2020

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    Definitely not a Reduced, as it's both larger than the standard Moonwatch case and the case is also drilled for an integrated chronograph rather than a modular one.

    Super fake bezel makes me think this is fake all around - the Coaxial models are actually finished more nicely than the standard Moonwatch, because they generally go for a higher price.
     
  13. redpcar

    redpcar Mar 24, 2020

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    Are there even any threads there for a caseback? Faux fakity fakemeister. Hope you didn't pay much for it.
     
  14. efauser

    efauser I ♥ karma!!! Mar 24, 2020

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    Replica as in fake or replica as in 3594.50
     
  15. OMEGuy

    OMEGuy Mar 24, 2020

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    This case is so fake, that I wonder how it can fill in a thread with numerous experts here.

    I mean, that's too much honour for a piece of crap.
     
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  16. abrod520

    abrod520 Mar 24, 2020

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    Fake, AFAIK the 3594 "replica" used the same case as the standard Moonwatch of the time
     
  17. efauser

    efauser I ♥ karma!!! Mar 24, 2020

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    I know. I found it curious that Norman referred to it as a replica case, rather than fake.
     
  18. gdupree

    gdupree Mar 25, 2020

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    Experts? I thought that's what we had you for.... It's moonwatch-or-bust for me, so I can barely tell co-axial speedy parts from my socket wrenches.