here is the link to the thread on detecting fake guarantee cards
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=716674
i just looked at both of mine and appear authentic. . .to be honest these super fakes are just too hard for even experienced watch people to figure it out
And thank you Connieseamaster, (from below) if that IS your real name, for the kind words. Were you a card collector? Stingray rider?
And I see comments about Rolex creating a new way of securing their watches, but my real problem is in that watches that are ALMOST exactly the same can be made for pennies on the dollar. I will never again be able to pay thousands for a new luxury watch. The world has changed. And I get Rolex makes a very nice watch. My Sub is still one of a few favorites and will remain so. At some point we have to ask what we are paying for , I guess.
This is absolutely crazy. I follow Horology House on IG and have seen a few of his videos on YouTube. He had a ton of followers and has been around for quite awhile.
A lot of his videos were comparing replicas to originals and how to spot the differences.
I would have felt pretty comfortable buying the seller had I been buying from him. This doesn鈥檛 sound like a mistake but sounds like he was blatantly trying to con the buyer. Absolutely insane.
I wonder if Rolex could embed a small chip in the watch, similar to when you chip a pet.
It's tough, especially on the Rolex. Best way is to loop the movement. It will look poorly finished on the fake. Watch this starting at about 4:30.
Wouldn't it be nice if the watch manufacturers could somehow apply/inbed something on the actual watch that the crooks cannot replicate. If I were Rolex I would be all over this.
Rolex has tried. Its just easier than ever to copy designs and program machine tools.
How did Bernie Madoff, Allen Stanford, Jeff Skilling and many others get away with multi billion dollar frauds? They were con men who had the talent to deceive and still have people believe in them. HH was a peanut in the scam world, but hits close to home because of the watch angle.
I wouldn't freak out about buying a Rolex watch from established grey market dealers, you will almost always get the real deal. But only work with established dealers who have the watch in hand, can send you detailed pics of the watch, details of the warranty card, provide references, etc In the Essery case this didn't happen and the buyer relied on his reputation.on Youtube and social media, which tell you nothing about his financial history and trustworthiness. If the buyer had asked for references up front I suspect the deal would have collapsed.
There are a lot of things that seprate the good one from the fake without opening the back (the red Daytona on the dial is the first and probably best inidication). BUT, one need to know where and what to look for.
As someone said here " if it is not perfect, it's not a real Rolex"
Considering all the stages this watch went through
No one noticed or saw this blinding error at Rolex Quality Control
Must have been their day off....or they need to go to spec savers.馃檨..
My absolute favorite comment from the fauxlex scandal on the Rolex snob site.
Another and more positive takeaway, of course, is that enthusiast communities are a crucial bulwark against this level of fakery, which is great, so long as that isn't a full-time job, I suppose.
There was a time, as older members may recall, when some astute American car buyers would refine what they wanted, and insist on examples that were produced Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. The angle, which apparently had merit, was that the regular workers might call in sick on Mondays or Fridays in order to enjoy three day weekends, leaving less experienced line workers to fill in.
