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路路Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersThis is 100% an AI post. Couldn't be more obvious.
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Factory Error on Seamaster America's Cup 2533.50: Pantograph
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路I completely understand where you're coming from, but honestly, if I were a dedicated collector with a large portfolio of vintage and historical models, I absolutely would pay a premium for a documented factory anomaly. When you already have standard pieces in your box, the weird and unrepeatable ones become the most fascinating.
The main issue here is that Omega鈥攍ike most major Swiss brands鈥攚ill never officially certify their own quality control mistake. If I send the watch to Bienne for an extract of the archives or an official inspection, they will simply treat the caseback as "defective" and replace it with a correct service part. That would completely erase a piece of the watch's history. That鈥檚 why these anomalies have to be evaluated and appreciated by the community, rather than the brand itself.
So is this one--- 100% AI.
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路Don't tell me that we have been talking to a Bot al along and that the AI model created the watch with the missing 'r' just to mess with us?
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Yes, that's exactly what's happened- and I'd bet the picture is AI generated. The text made me very, very suspicious and I just ran it through an AI checker. Unfortunate.
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路Yes, that's exactly what's happened- and I'd bet the picture is AI generated. The text made me very, very suspicious and I just ran it through an AI checker. Unfortunate.
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路路Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersYes, that's exactly what's happened- and I'd bet the picture is AI generated. The text made me very, very suspicious and I just ran it through an AI checker. Unfortunate.
If Daniel16 is a troll, using AI and taking the piss, then fair enough.
However, if this was entirely AI generated then boy, are we in trouble.....
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路Actually the OP's avatar looks AI generated as well.
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路I don't disagree with you, but what's the motivation? To get someone here to offer real money for a fake watch?
Could just be someone having fun at our expense, or, if the original image is real but only doctored in one specific place, could be someone trying to figure out what they can get away with.
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路Yes, that's exactly what's happened- and I'd bet the picture is AI generated. The text made me very, very suspicious and I just ran it through an AI checker. Unfortunate.
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路路Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersActually the OP's avatar looks AI generated as well.
It would explain why he was so reasonable in his responses.
Perhaps AI members are actually nicer than real new members who just get really arsey if you don't agree with them.
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路Don't worry, I admit I used AI, but only to translate the text from Italian to English. I own the watch; if you want, I can place it on a piece of paper with whatever you're writing on it.
No. That's not translated text, it's AI generated phrases. 100% of the word structure is AI generated, which goes beyond translation.
And also- I genuinely hate to say this- but once suspicion of AI content exists, how can I possibly trust an image that you share? If you changed only one thing on the image, would an AI image checker be able to find that difference? I'm not sure. An AI checker has "low" confidence it's a real image.
Look- errors like this could happen. But, I have to express healthy doubt that no one has noticed this error in the twenty-six years this watch has been out. Not to mention, you are a brand-new user. which, while this is a great reason to join the forum, increases the skepticism. Choosing to engage with everyone via AI increases that skepticism. You could literally just be a bot for all I know.
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路No. That's not translated text, it's AI generated phrases. 100% of the word structure is AI generated, which goes beyond translation.
And also- I genuinely hate to say this- but once suspicion of AI content exists, how can I possibly trust an image that you share? If you changed only one thing on the image, would an AI image checker be able to find that difference? I'm not sure. An AI checker has "low" confidence it's a real image.
Look- errors like this could happen. But, I have to express healthy doubt that no one has noticed this error in the twenty-six years this watch has been out. Not to mention, you are a brand-new user. which, while this is a great reason to join the forum, increases the skepticism. Choosing to engage with everyone via AI increases that skepticism. You could literally just be a bot for all I know.
Agreed. I would recommend anyone in this position to write what you want to say in your own language and let a translator convert it to the desired language. It won't be perfect but it will seem more authentic. And with proper disclosure I'm sure no one will be offended.
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路Agreed. I would recommend anyone in this position to write what you want to say in your own language and let a translator convert it to the desired language. It won't be perfect but it will seem more authentic. And with proper disclosure I'm sure no one will be offended.
I think what's hilarious is that moving forward some amount of error in language use is almost going to be desirable, at least until about systems figure out they can look more genuine by introducing personality to their posts.
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路I think what's hilarious is that moving forward some amount of error in language use is almost going to be desirable, at least until about systems figure out they can look more genuine by introducing personality to their posts.
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路To me it's like AI wants to turn every response into a think piece with lots of contemplation and introspection.
Agreed. Also check this out-
if I were a dedicated collector with a large portfolio of vintage and historical models, I absolutely would pay a premium for a documented factory anomaly. When you already have standard pieces in your box, the weird and unrepeatable ones become the most fascinating.
"If?"
Anyway- the image likely can't be identified as real at least partly because the limited edition number has been blurred out. If we had the limited edition number we might be able to track down that specific case back/watch and verify if the images were just pulled offline. Not sure that would be enough for me at this point though.
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路Agreed. Also check this out-
"If?"
Anyway- the image likely can't be identified as real at least partly because the limited edition number has been blurred out. If we had the limited edition number we might be able to track down that specific case back/watch and verify if the images were just pulled offline. Not sure that would be enough for me at this point though.
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路What about this?
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路I expected to find watch enthusiasts, not AI private investigators. What would I possibly gain by pretending a letter was missing from my watch's case back
Why would you assume that any serious watch collector wouldn't also be an investigator and a skeptic? It would seem to me that there is a huge amount of overlap between these two things, any serious collector should be incredibly aware of potential fakes and should have an eye for incongruity.
To be honest with you, that sounds like a very common neutralizing gesture/ blame-shifting tactic, and it is exactly what I would expect at this point in the conversation. "It's not MY fault, the problem is actually your suspicion" just compounds the issue further. You not thinking that a serious collector would be an investigator makes me disbelieve that you know anything about the watch collecting world at all.
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路I deliberately obscured the limited edition number and did not show the full case and movement codes. The photos were taken by my watchmaker and sent directly to Omega. I expected to find watch enthusiasts, not AI private investigators. What would I possibly gain by pretending a letter was missing from my watch's case back?
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