Expert Takes on Seamasters?

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jdpuder

·Aug 8, 2016

Bid ending very shortly on this. Seems like a great piece to me. Main thing I still have trouble with is spotting a redial. Excited to potentially throw a bid on here. Any quick help or caution would be super appreciated!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OMEGA-SEAMA...838413?hash=item3f68010acd:g:WO4AAOSwSv1XmBR5

 

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jdpuder

·Aug 8, 2016

Thinking I was right on this being at least a solid piece as the price jumped 100% in the last 10-15 minutes!

 

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jdpuder

·Aug 8, 2016

Another example I was looking at:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-seamaster-/122058408133?hash=item1c6b3f80c5:g:xE0AAOSwuzRXdeSs

 

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JimInOz

·Aug 8, 2016·Melbourne Australia

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Another example I was looking at:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-seamaster-/122058408133?hash=item1c6b3f80c5:g:xE0AAOSwuzRXdeSs

Bit of a dog, strange mix of hands, rough movement.

Pass

 

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jdpuder

·Aug 8, 2016

JimInOz

Bit of a dog, strange mix of hands, rough movement.

Pass

Super helpful, appreciate it. Very generous of you (and others) to lend expertise on this, trying to be knowledgeable when pulling the trigger (on what will be my second vintage Omega), but it's hard. Couple others:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Automat...th-Bracelet-/191940240944?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Seamast...RVE-AUCTION-/381727418119?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE

 

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Bumper

·Aug 9, 2016

Watch 1 - plating on the bezel is worn.

watch 2 - has several "friends" helping out with the bidding, including this champion bidder.

 

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Speedmasterfan88

·Aug 9, 2016

Bumper

Watch 1 - plating on the bezel is worn.

watch 2 - has several "friends" helping out with the bidding, including this champion bidder.

How do you get this detailed Bidder Information? Is it only available After the Deal or only in the Desktop Version? Can't seem to Access it Browsing the Bay via mobile.

 

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omegasaso12

·Aug 9, 2016

You have to use laptop or you can go down to a bottom of ebay page on mobile and click on "classic ebay" and then you can look history/bidders, etc. same as on desktop computer

Another usefull tool I use is this: http://www.watchcount.com/#serp
it provides infos about final sales price, when article is sold under asking price...(buy it now or send offer option)

 

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MattinVa

·Aug 9, 2016

I bid on the first one up to about 500.00, I think 850 was a bit high. But its opinion and what the market will demand.

 

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efauser

·Aug 10, 2016

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I'd appreciate any help in identifying this Seamaster DeVille - I genuinely know nothing about them, and was looking at this particular auction for another piece, and semi-accidentally bid on this thing, only to find I've won it ...

It's described as "Gents vintage gold plated automatic Omega Seamaster De Ville wristwatch, in original box". I'm guessing mid 1960s? I've not seen one with numerals vs batons before...

thanks in advance for any guidance as to what I've just bought, and if you could help me feel better by telling me what you think it's worth, then please do ;-)

You should probably start your own thread on this rather than hijacking this one. You'll get more responses.

 

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jdpuder

·Aug 10, 2016

Experts, got another example for ya. Based on my budget I'm ok with a little "character." Will need to ask for a pic of the movement.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/351805018056

 

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efauser

·Aug 11, 2016

If you're doing any of your own research, what do you think and why?

 

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JimInOz

·Aug 11, 2016·Melbourne Australia

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..........................Will need to ask for a pic of the movement.

Good luck with that.

It's a monocoque case that has to be opened from the front.
That requires specialist knowledge, skill and special tools, something that the seller is highly unlikely to have based on their profile.

 

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jdpuder

·Aug 11, 2016

efauser

If you're doing any of your own research, what do you think and why?

Well since you asked, to me it doesn't look like a franken, I mentioned needing to see the movement, which someone more knowledgeable has now pointed out may prove difficult (which I think should be a deal breaker). The dial looks accurate to me (in that natural wear seems realistic and the fonts I think are accurate), but I really have difficulty with dial hands. Crown and case back I think are correct (crown pretty worn).

My challenges as I try to learn more in general are with redials and movements (other than the eyeball test, I can't spot flaws with movements).

 

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novina

·Aug 11, 2016

First a case reference number would help you identify it through google or Omega Vintage database. To my eye, looks pretty good otherwise. But with out the case numbers and caliber numbers, this is a gamble. If the price were right, I would buy it. And as it sits, $300 would be a max amount with the information given. Remember that any ebay watch should be serviced unless they can provide a receipt from a reputable watch maker to prove it has been done. So add another $200 - $300 for service.

So looking down at my Seamaster, which appears to have the same hands, I do see that the hands on my watch do almost touch the minute track and the hour track respectfully. Those hands although may be correct just look a bit short to me. Again a reference number would be needed.

So the repair estimate may be going up, crown, hands, and service.

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Edward53

·Aug 11, 2016

The first watch looks really nice. The last one doesn't look nearly as nice. Instead of trying to find a bargain for your first quality watch - which often turns out a lot more expensive than you think - you might be better off saving up to pay well for a really good example. A month later the money will be forgotten and you'll be enjoying getting to know the watch and taking real pleasure in its ownership. One excellent watch is a lot better than three mediocre ones.

 

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jdpuder

·Aug 13, 2016

All good advice, thank you all for the expertise. Have a specific question that I'm sure someone here would have an excellent answer for. Based on reference number, this appears to be original. Movement looks to be in good condition, and people seem to think highly of the 613 from what I can tell. My question is in regards to the dial markers and hands. I think they're original, but would a servicing potentially clean them up?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Omega-SeaMast...ne-Bracelet-/131898308598?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE

 

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Edward53

·Aug 13, 2016

That's all absolutely fine except for a replacement crown, but that's no big deal and anyway you can still get the correct type. I don't think it would be possible successfully to clean up the dial and hands as attempts to do that usually don't end well, but to my mind they really aren't that bad and have an acceptable vintage look. I think it's a nice watch if it doesn't go too high. It has a genuine Omega bracelet which also helps and I think it'd be ok at double where it is now ($232.50). Just my thoughts, others may differ.