Ed White Speedmaster With Replacement Dial and Hands?

Spacefruit

At today's rates, €3k is about $3,500.

If the movement is clean, and the number is close to known examples, then at that price it could appear to be a bit of a no-brainer.

You can make the watch look a lot better fairly easily. Fit some new hands and distress them, perhaps do something with the dial, and fit one of the repro DO90s. You then have a watch you can wear and do a rolling restoration on, picking up a genuine dial, handset and bezel over time as they appear.

Right now, my thinking on an Ed White with "Good" components would be roughly:

Movement - correct number and clean: $2,000

Case - no serious dings, properly seating caseback and pushers: $1,000

And I suspect the OP watch may actually have more valuable parts than simply "Good".

Then the things you don't have:

Bezel: $2,000

Dial: $3,000

Handset: $500

So let's assume you buy it for $3,500.

Then spend another $6,000 on parts and a service. You could certainly do it for less if you are patient.

You are now at about $9,500.

What Ed White is out there for $9,500? They are there, but not many are attractive.

However...

Now the initial excitement has bitten, we can go back and be ruthless and look for the details that might derail this whole train of thought.

The movement number looks to me to be 2052xxxx.

That is not a range I have seen in -65s. It is seen in early Ed Whites, and also in late 105.002s.

So before getting excited about the price, that is the first thing I would want properly resolved.

Next just check the pushers - they look incorrect, they might have been butchered into the case. Check if they are screw in of push fit. Ed White pushers are the smaller ones and its not always easy to see on photos.

The Dial - This may not be a service dial. It could simply be a later dial, modified, (Or not - you can just slap an 861 dial into a movement, it just wont be secured by the feet).

So my conclusion: If the movement is good, I am tempted, then check the case for damage. Offer $3000 and I would be in.

padders

Where did the jump to suggest this was a -65 come from? The pic above shows a HF mark. It is deffo not a -65 with a HF caseback. If this is remotely original (not necessarily so) it is a -63 not -65 and the 20.5m serial also suggests this. I'd take a FOIS 1 or 2 over this all day long personally but as noted, with the right hands it would look ok I guess.

padders

Usually Omega cases were made by Centrale Boîtes or Huguenin Freres, so are usually stamped CB or HF. The -65 a bit of an enigma and the case maker has to my knowledge never been identified. The logo in the back looks like a stylised RJ or perhaps FJ. The presence of the HF mark was a give away it couldn't have been a -65.

maumerstrubbi

And for those who care or want to know what it went for:
It was sold for 4122€

zetamajor

Did you buy it ?

I was one of the snipe bidders at Euro 3k, seems like a no brainer to me. But I didnt get near. There were a lot of bidders over Eur 3k. 4k feels like too much with the obvious parts to be replaced. (Plus import duty for me).

There was another ebay 105.003 at the weekend and seemed to sell quickly, presumably around GBP£ 4k https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/158236142617. Might have been better value as a rolling restoration (taxes aside) as it appears original and complete but poor bezel and potentially case.

zetamajor

Did you buy it ?

I was one of the snipe bidders at Euro 3k, seems like a no brainer to me. But I didnt get near. There were a lot of bidders over Eur 3k. 4k feels like too much with the obvious parts to be replaced. (Plus import duty for me).

There was another ebay 105.003 at the weekend and seemed to sell quickly, presumably around GBP£ 4k https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/158236142617. Might have been better value as a rolling restoration (taxes aside) as it appears original and complete but poor bezel and potentially case.

Denarius

Interesting, some really rough watches are selling for reasonable money, not so bad if you have correct parts to replace but then I would also say you need the knowledge to fit them.

Add in tracking down things like pushers, crowns, original hands and it gets you into a deep rabbit hole of money..