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Ed White Dial Finishing Comparisons - 1964 vs. 1965

bazamu
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This is not revolutionary or new information, but always interesting to compare the different finishes on 105.003-64 Ed Whites versus 105.003-65. I go back and forth between what I like more, as the smooth finish of the -64 seems to appear darker (a "truer" shade of black) on the wrist and the sandpaper-like finish to the -65 is lighter. That said, the -65 can produce interesting effects depending on your wrist angle. What do you all prefer?

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Really great macros pics! Very interesting to see this difference. I vote for the 64 without hesitating!
Lucky man who can make this comparison at home!...馃憤
 
Baz9614
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-65 and is the step more pronounced or is it just my eyes?
 
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I prefer the -64 and I really like the blue bezel.
 
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Blacker the better for me usually. So I initially thought the 64. But similar to other things, the more I think about it, i change my mind. The 65 contrast brings something different. But i suppose you could say that about the smoother surface when it reflects at different angles.

Hell, I don't know. I like them both. You can send me whichever one loses the vote.
 
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I am not sure you can extrapolate that into every -64 and -65. My -65 is smoother than that, more like your -64. There may well be dial variation but I don鈥檛 think it鈥檚 as clear cut as 64=smooth, 65=rough. Is that a late -65 example? They were made for 3-4 years of course.
 
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Not wishing to derail the thread, but do folk think that there is also then a difference between the 64/65 when it comes to dial ageing? Or is that just another impossible question... This is a 64, that has been worn and had a life outside (of a safe) It has a warmth/charm in the flesh that doesn't really convey in this pic.
 
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Nice macros. Any info on the 63 Ed dial? Mine appears more like the 64, but a series of only 1 馃榾.
Was the difference related to dial polishing or to different dial coating? Finally, any corresponding differences in the 105.012 dials?
 
bazamu
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padders padders
I am not sure you can extrapolate that into every -64 and -65. My -65 is smoother than that, more like your -64. There may well be dial variation but I don鈥檛 think it鈥檚 as clear cut as 64=smooth, 65=rough. Is that a late -65 example? They were made for 3-4 years of course.
That's a fair point - I'm sure at least one member here has catalogued the differences or introduction of these different finishes, so hopefully they will weigh in. While I've handled many Ed Whites over the years, I'll admit that I never looked closely enough to see the different finishes until I had these two in my possession.
 
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bazamu ChicagoFrog
That's a fair point - I'm sure at least one member here has catalogued the differences or introduction of these different finishes, so hopefully they will weigh in. While I've handled many Ed Whites over the years, I'll admit that I never looked closely enough to see the different finishes until I had these two in my possession.
I'll dig mine out and try to take a similar picture to that you did above, maybe it will be the same lol.
 
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bazamu ChicagoFrog
This is not revolutionary or new information, but always interesting to compare the different finishes on 105.003-64 Ed Whites versus 105.003-65. I go back and forth between what I like more, as the smooth finish of the -64 seems to appear darker (a "truer" shade of black) on the wrist and the sandpaper-like finish to the -65 is lighter. That said, the -65 can produce interesting effects depending on your wrist angle. What do you all prefer?

1964 105.003
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1965 105.003
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Well I never. There is a fair bit of texture on my dial, more maybe than your -64 and less than your -65, and it is turning every so slightly brown, especially round the sub dials so does look rather less black than your -64. Taking a pic like yours is tough, not sure what set up you used, I did the second shot through a loupe so the dof is wafer thin!

This is an early -65, serial 22.827m, dated 6th April 1966.


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On most 64 dials I have owned the white paint under the lume is not present, the plot is usually showing as silver metallic like a gilt dial 1675.
 
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Well I never. There is a fair bit of texture on my dial, more maybe than your -64 and less than your -65, and it is turning every so slightly brown, especially round the sub dials so does look rather less black than your -64. Taking a pic like yours is tough, not sure what set up you used, I did the second shot through a loupe so the dof is wafer thin!

This is an early -65, serial 22.827m, dated 6th April 1966.


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looks pretty smooth to my eyes
 
Just Livin
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Badly beaten in every way. But a 64 with a smooth dial, and one which I would not call black. This one appears to have lightened its shade over time. But appeals to me in the vintage looks state.
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My -65 from 1967 has a grainy finish too and I prefer it since it looks more matte than the -64 dials
 
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Interesting thread. Thanks for posting these. For me, its the 64 every day (even without considering the blue bezel, which is awesome). However, I think this "test" may just reflect our respective preferences for glossy or matte dials. I just had a similar choice between two very nice examples of a Yema 53.00.16 (glossy vs. matte). And, while certainly no Ed White, I chose the glossy without hesitation. Same for me here with the 64. And, BTW, if you want to swap just DM me.... 馃榾
 
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