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Hi everyone pleasure to have become a member
My names Jerry and I’ve become interested in collecting vintage watches,
I’ve got the bug because my father passed away recently and left me three omega dynamic’s which I absolutely love , I never knew he was into watches , and intend to keep these and treasure them , the gold one I’ve just had serviced and brought back to authenticity at great expense £700 , the grey one works well but will need a service soon, the other one ( racer dial) is missing a movement don’t know where he got it or when, I’d like to get a movement for it but omega center can’t help can any one on here help please, so that I can bring my dads collection to completion and then start collecting myself.
 
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So regarding the racer dial, I kinda have my doubts about whether it's actually a legitimate dial. If you hunt in the dark corners of ebay and etsy, you can find counterfeit cases and dials that look exactly like yours and only require the movement. I'm fairly certain the other two are real, however.

If you compare the dial printing on the racing dial to the others in your collection, there are slight differences in the font shapes and spacing (compare the D in Dynamic across all 3 watches or the spacing of "Geneve", for example). Also, the racer dial is missing the Ts around "Swiss Made" but has lume plots, and Omega definitely didn't make these with radium lume.

https://omega-constellation-collect...10/omega-geneve-dynamic-i-best-seller-of.html

An older thread on a watch that looks very similar to the dial under discussion: https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-geneve-dynamic-racing.56031/
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The racing dial model is not likely the first generation Dynamic. If you can show us the inside of the case, the information in there may be useful.
 
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As noted by Al, Second gen are very different, they use rounded cases with 1XXX series movements.

I'l be honest, I raised an eyebrow at the phrase 'bought back to authenticity' since it is pretty hard to restore originality. The finishing for instance on the gold (or is it gold cap) model was never polished originally, but sunburst like the steel model which does actually look pretty original.
 
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So regarding the racer dial, I kinda have my doubts about whether it's actually a legitimate dial. If you hunt in the dark corners of ebay and etsy, you can find counterfeit cases and dials that look exactly like yours and only require the movement. I'm fairly certain the other two are real, however.

If you compare the dial printing on the racing dial to the others in your collection, there are slight differences in the font shapes and spacing (compare the D in Dynamic across all 3 watches or the spacing of "Geneve", for example). Also, the racer dial is missing the Ts around "Swiss Made" but has lume plots, and Omega definitely didn't make these with radium lume.
Thanks for your exp
 
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Thanks for your expert opinion, not knowing much about these things, and now having studied others for sale I can see what you mean, this definitely does not look right. but at least I’ve learned something for future purchases and at my age that’s always a good thing thank you
 
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The finishing for instance on the gold (or is it gold cap) model was never polished originally, but sunburst like the steel model which does actually look pretty original.

That's not really true, but again it depends on what generation this is. There are both steel and gold versions from the factory, housing the 1000 series movements, that are polished rather than sunburst.



That's why it's important to know what the case number is on the watch before concluding much of anything.
 
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Thanks for your expert opinion, not knowing much about these things, and now having studied others for sale I can see what you mean, this definitely does not look right. but at least I’ve learned something for future purchases and at my age that’s always a good thing thank you

Please show the inside of the case with the dial removed so we can see the numbers, and also a photo of the back of the case. Don't assume it's not real until we've had a better look at this. There were some odd variations of these back in the day, and the things that people are used to seeing isn't always the extent of what Omega made.
 
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I have a complete watch with the racing dial. I have always had some doubts about this piece because of certain quality variances. Having said that, I had a watchmaker back then that swore it was completely authentic. "It was the quartz crisis" he would explain.

Anyway, the pointy "A" in AUTOMATIC, the sloppy ass placement of the lume plots really has bothered me over the years. That's a spot of snot on the crystal in the center, didn't see it before I shot the picture. The dial's really clean.



The sparse notes I made on this are:

166.107
SN 36747592 1975
1012 movement
 
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Ok guys thanks all seems very complicated, I will post pictures of the inside soon , as it’s in a jewellers at the moment for an appraisal and to see about a move
 
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Ok guys thanks all seems very complicated, I will post pictures of the inside soon , as it’s in a jewellers at the moment for an appraisal and to see about a move

Not really complicated at all. Once we have the numbers inside the case, we will be able to tell you more.
 
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[I never knew he was into watches , and intend to keep these and treasure them , the gold one I’ve just had serviced and brought back to authenticity at great expense £700 , the grey one works well but will need a service soon, the other one ( racer dial) is missing a movement don’t know where he got it or when, I’d like to get a movement for it but omega center can’t help can any one on here help please, so that I can bring my dads collection to completion and then start collecting myself.

Welcome Sir

They are very cool.. I would hold off on spending any more money on servicing and restoration as the members here can recommend watchmakers that specialise in vintage pieces and that work at a considerably cheaper rate!
 
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Welcome Sir

They are very cool.. I would hold off on spending any more money on servicing and restoration as the members here can recommend watchmakers that specialise in vintage pieces and that work at a considerably cheaper rate!
 
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Hi everyone pleasure to have become a member
My names Jerry and I’ve become interested in collecting vintage watches,
I’ve got the bug because my father passed away recently and left me three omega dynamic’s which I absolutely love , I never knew he was into watches , and intend to keep these and treasure them , the gold one I’ve just had serviced and brought back to authenticity at great expense £700 , the grey one works well but will need a service soon, the other one ( racer dial) is missing a movement don’t know where he got it or when, I’d like to get a movement for it but omega center can’t help can any one on here help please, so that I can bring my dads collection to completion and then start collecting myself.
 
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At last I’ve got photos of the inside of the case any thoughts or advice on it would be much appreciated
Regards Jerry
 
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At last I’ve got photos of the inside of the case any thoughts or advice on it would be much appreciated
Regards Jerry

So the case number is correct for a Cal. 1020 or 1022 movement, which would have both the day and the date. That means the dial that is shown isn't likely for this case. The steel case shown on the Omega Extranet for this case number is polished, not the brushed finish that is shown on your case. So it's possible that someone has refinished this, thinking that it shouldn't be polished.

Nothing jumps out at me as being fake about the case though, with regards to the other details. The crystal you need is 063PZ5083 by the way...

Cheers, Al
 
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So the case number is correct for a Cal. 1020 or 1022 movement, which would have both the day and the date. That means the dial that is shown isn't likely for this case. The steel case shown on the Omega Extranet for this case number is polished, not the brushed finish that is shown on your case. So it's possible that someone has refinished this, thinking that it shouldn't be polished.

Nothing jumps out at me as being fake about the case though, with regards to the other details. The crystal you need is 063PZ5083 by the way...

Cheers, Al
Ok thanks any comment on where I could get it sorted in the uk cheers Kerry