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Evitzee
·Yeah, now we're getting into a whole different can of worms, involving gifts, and declining a thoughtful gift. That's a bit more complicated.
Do You Tell Them the Truth, or Seller Beware?
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FreelanceWriter
·...if it was a private sale from someone completely ignorant of what they were selling, I’d definitely offer them a fair price, by educating them.
My understanding is that this is all manufactured drama. These are all pre-negotiated ahead of time from what people who have been on the show have said, based on what I've read about this show.
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janice&fred
·Speaking of thought process...you could have been thoughtful enough to post pictures of the girlfriend for us!
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Marsimaxam
·I've been involved with several reality shows and have had friends appear on others, and sometimes the item isn't even actually for sale. I had a friend take a car on Pawn Stars because the Producers had read about it online (famous original owner) and reached out to them to come on, but the car wasn't actually for sale at all.
Had another friend on a NYC based reality show where she became a "regular" and they would give her items to take in to the shop to "sell" so they could set her up as a romantic interest for one of the employees. It can get pretty ridiculous.
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janice&fred
·All these years and I thought all these reality shows were real
The weekend flea market scene in Manhattan's Chelsea neighborhood was some wild times back in the 80's, 90's and right up until a few years ago until the big main lot got turned into a building and the "garage" was no more. One of the usual players was who pavel and a bunch of us others called "biker billy" because of his tattoos. We weren't really competitors for the watches as he leaned more toward gold stuff. Anyways on one of my frequent return trips stateside I was chatting with him briefly in front of the Antiques Building with George Aloi, and later George told me the guy was in a TV show. I scoffed at the thought and promptly forgot about it but almost fell out of my chair back in Cebu City when sure enough I seen him on that TV show "baggage battles" as a main cast member. Hey Bill Sohne I'm sure you knew him as well?
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Walrus
·I was as gracious as possible in declining, and suggested that the albums could fund a considerable portion of her daughter’s college education. Had we been older, engaged, and had the family been particularly wealthy, the situation would have been different. Accepting a gift worth thousands of dollars from a middle-class family simply because they offered it while clearly unaware of the value does not strike me as right. Buying a JLC from a flea market vendor who has chosen a price for the piece out of ignorance is one thing; taking advantage of the kindness of a love-interest’s mother is quite another.
All just me, what you may believe or think would have been the right move is entirely up to you. I was just addressing the original ethical quandary with an anecdote from my life and the associated thought process.
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JwRosenthal
·I think you did the right thing. As a diehard Beatles fan I wouldn’t have accepted it either. I just wouldn’t feel right.
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ChiefMark
·Speaking of thought process...you could have been thoughtful enough to post pictures of the girlfriend for us!
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerAntiques Roadshow's main purpose is to flush out valuable stuff that can be bought or sold at auction, those 'experts' that appear to analyze your vintage Daytona just didn't magically appear, they are there as a business function to identify and snag that piece for the market.
Can you cite a source for this claim?
It is considered highly unethical for an appraiser to try to "snag" a piece that they are appraising, so as much as the show may solicit items from the area for the show, I'm not quite sure I buy the premise you are stating without something to back it up.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI don't necessarily doubt what you're saying, but if that's the case, I'm amazed at the acting skills of the average person.
It's just what I've read. Here's one account:
https://www.distractify.com/p/is-pawn-stars-real-or-staged
But as far as acting skills go, do you actually watch the show? Not sure I would call anything they do on that show acting. It's painful at the best of times, and essentially I quit watching it a few years ago. I liked seeing the actual items brought in, but the other "side stories" were too much to take.
BTW it looks like the people who come in, are coached on the shooting days, and if needed scenes are shot several times.
A few friends of mine have been to the actual shop, and said it's mostly full of Pawn Stars tee shirts, hats, etc.
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Dan S
·I
A few friends of mine have been to the actual shop, and said it's mostly full of Pawn Stars tee shirts, hats, etc.
I visited the shop once, and it was basically a tourist trap. We had to line-up outside and wait our turn to go in. Once inside, we had to move around the store in a defined route, as if we were in a museum. There are a lot of items on display, and some were pretty interesting, but there were so few staff and so many lookie-loo "customers", it would have taken tremendous patience to actually try to buy something. In terms of watches, I mainly remember a lot of blingy Rolexes, but also some other luxury watches (e.g. AP RO).
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janice&fred
·I was never able to sit thru an entire episode of pawn stars. The only other shop-related reality show I found worse was those patently contrived episodes at the gas monkey garage. Every "resto" job had the same theme...obscenely oversized mag wheels, air suspension and pathetic races against the clock against some arbitrary deadline. I won't even go into the childish donuts in the parking lot...
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Waltesefalcon
·For a change, we are taking about BUYER honesty in this thread. 😉
I once bought a McIntosh 1700 amp at a yard sale that they'd put $5 on because it had a blown transistor and the guy thought it was trashed. I offered him $100 we settled on $75 and I took it to my buddy who was an electronics repairman, so $75 and the cost of dinner at Red Lobster I got a good functioning amp that I still use over twenty years later.
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FreelanceWriter
·But as far as acting skills go, do you actually watch the show? Not sure I would call anything they do on that show acting. It's painful at the best of times, and essentially I quit watching it a few years ago. I liked seeing the actual items brought in, but the other "side stories" were too much to take.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI was referring to the acting skills of the customers. The staff acting is obviously atrocious, and as you said, painful to watch. The show went downhill as soon as they started with the "side stories." It was bad enough when it was just the phony staff conflict and other interactions.
As noted in the article I posted above, the "customers" (who are not always real) are coached to act and often several takes are required.
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janice&fred
·The staff acting is obviously atrocious, and as you said, painful to watch.
Especially the "old man" patriarch. His hesitation with initiating his lines is as if he is being cued by whoever is standing behind the camera man.
The next-least believable character is that slob chumley who is another one that recites his lines as if he just learned them 5 minutes prior.
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.Like @Archer I enjoyed the historical/cultural/science/literary etc. aspects of items brought forth on Pawn Stars, I stopped watching because I couldn’t stand the people or the side show anymore. It’s impossible to put a show like this on without scripting So I don’t hold that against them.
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gostang9
·Could be similar to the new car dealership syndrome.
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When I had the gas station/car repair shop I had many customers that would rather ... walk ... into the new car show room and turn in their used car for a new vehicle rather than sell it for much more privately.
The only reason I mention all these details is that my wife would NEVER EVER sell a car privately. She hates having strangers ask silly questions, she doesn't feel the need to embellish the features or condition, she wouldn't be able to stop from openly disclosing any faults, she would refuse to let random people test drive her car potentially damaging it or affecting her insurance, she is action oriented and would expect to make a sale with each potential customer, and finally she doesn't like strangers coming to the house.
She makes an excellent Engineer, but would make a terrible sales person, it would cause her a lot of stress and so she would not consider it.
BTW: the above explains why she rejects my claims that my watch collection is a store of value. To her it is not, it is simply a horrible potential stressful situation should she have to find a way to liquidate it if I was gone...
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janice&fred
·BTW: the above explains why she rejects my claims that my watch collection is a store of value. To her it is not, it is simply a horrible potential stressful situation should she have to find a way to liquidate it if I was gone...
She is a sentimental one isn't she! 😁
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