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Difference between a rattrapante and split seconds?

  1. jimmyd13 Nov 17, 2016

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    Morning all.

    I didn't know until yesterday that Omega made a rattrapante (X-33 type case with modified 7750) and the more I look at it, the more I like it. On reading further, there's also a "split seconds" that was produced in both the DeVille and Speedmaster lines but I always thought these terms were interchangeable.

    Can anyone explain the difference between the two to someone who's getting confused?

    Thanks.
     
  2. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 17, 2016

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  3. tyrantlizardrex Nov 17, 2016

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    Hey @jimmyd13 - as far as I understand it, they are the same thing, rattrapante (catchup) being the french term for this type of watch.

    I think there are different types of movement used in the moonwatch type cases, and the deville, but I'm not 100% sure.

    These aren't to everyone's taste, they wear big, and they are heavy - but they're also kinda cool.

    Pricing seems to be fairly firm around the £2500 mark, but I don't know if they're actually selling at that.

    Couple of my one.

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    Happy Hunting!
     
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  4. jimmyd13 Nov 17, 2016

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    Those photos are great - I hadn't seen the detail in the carbon fibre dial in other pictures.

    As for the difference in terminology, I'd always understood the terms were interchangeable but Omega seems to use the terms for different watches with the one you posted (and the one I'm looking at) called a rattrapante while the one that I've shamelessly stolen a photo of from the Omega site below is a "split seconds". That's what was confusing me and, yes, they are difference movements so that might just be what Omega is trying to distinguish.

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    I was so certain the next addition to my collection was going to be a 4.5 .... the choice is the reason I both love and hate the Speedmasters ... .so many lovely watches to own ...
     
  5. jimmyd13 Nov 17, 2016

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  6. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 17, 2016

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    No Chris moneymaker here.
     
  7. tyrantlizardrex Nov 17, 2016

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    @jimmyd13 just looking at the manual, Omega class what I have as a Split Seconds too - I don't think they use the term "Rattrapante", but I could be wrong.

    Either way, I'm 99% sure they mean the same thing - two stop watch, one that can be paused whilst the other continues.

    These watches tend to photograph terribly... sellers use very harsh light, and even in the Omega website shits, the carbon is washed out.

    Best advise I can offer is to try and see one in person.

    Where are you based?
     
  8. jimmyd13 Nov 17, 2016

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    I'm in the UK - Nottingham.
     
  9. Screwbacks Nov 17, 2016

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    Bovet is the first historical innovator for inventing a split second mechanism since 1930s, also known as mono rattrapante, now famously used for chronograph. This was applied in Bovet MR Valjoux84 (my avatar). This was followed by patek and Rolex POW wartime watch.

    For further details, please click -https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovet_Fleurier
     
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  10. tyrantlizardrex Nov 17, 2016

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    If you're ever in London, give me a shout, you're more than welcome to try mine. :thumbsup:
     
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  11. jimmyd13 Nov 17, 2016

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    Cheers :)
     
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  12. ulackfocus Nov 17, 2016

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    Sure - "rattrapante" sounds more expensive and classy while "split seconds" is more proletarian. Just like "escargot" is a delicacy while "snails" are garden pests.

    French makes everything sound classy to Americans. For instance, if you get up to go to the bathroom at work and your boss asks where you're going, "déposer uno charge" sounds so much better than "dropping a load".
     
  13. jimmyd13 Nov 17, 2016

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    By the way, a little reward for reading this thread ....the DeVille Split Seconds is just friggin gorgeous!

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  14. fnfz4 Nov 20, 2016

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    its a very cool watch if you ask me. more bang for the buck too.
     
  15. micampe Nov 20, 2016

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    That is also why a cow becomes beef and a pig becomes pork when they're food.
     
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