Dial questions - Constellation and Deville

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Hello OF.

For my learning today i have questions regarding two examples that i found local to me. They are somewhat "cheap" so i thought i would look into them.
I noticed a few things i would like to ask you all about, maybe i can learn something.

So the first one is a solid gold pie pan constellation. Nice looking at first. but i noticed on the bottom it says T swiss made T, but the dial doesnt appear to have lume on it. unless its just hard to see because the photo is not crisp and clear.
Would that point to this being a redial ? (if you can even see clear enough to tell)
I have asked for some better photos but the seller simply just said "No" LOL.
See photo: i can post more of the case it self as well, but they are all this quality.
i also see the crown is almost rounded right off

( somehow during upload this photo became more blurry, i will try and fix that.)




Watch number two.
A solid gold Geneve, this is only price at 1200 canadian dollars.
I am just wondering what the symbol on this dial is?
almost looks like a cupid cross bow or something. would this be original?
Has anyone seen this little emblem before ?

Thanks OF
 
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regarding the Connie.
hands have lume
Indices have notch for lume.
The pic is terrible but the hour haches look suspect.
case heavily polished.

(The B on the Geneve is just somebody’s company logo)
 
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Seconding the heavily polished bit. The crown should have clear facets, it's practically round.

The Geneve looks much more honest and unpolished.
 
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regarding the Connie.
hands have lume
Indices have notch for lume.
The pic is terrible but the hour haches look suspect.
case heavily polished.

(The B on the Geneve is just somebody’s company logo)



Thank you, i had a hard time seeing if there were plots for the lume.. it just looks off a bit.

As for the "B" i guess that makes sense now. i wonder if i can figure out what the logo really is.

Thanks Very much
 
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The "B" with an arrow stands for Bofors. It was and is a famous Swedish arms manufacturer. In a period Alfred Nobel (The Nobel prize founder) was the owner of the company. These watches were given to employees after I think, 25 years of service in the company.

More information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors
 
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The "B" with an arrow stands for Bofors. It was and is a famous Swedish arms manufacturer. In a period Alfred Nobel (The Nobel prize founder) was the owner of the company. These watches were given to employees after I think, 25 years of service in the company.

More information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors


This is great info, thank you.
I wonder if the extract (if you were to get one) would specify that. Would be neat.