Diagnosing Grandpa’s 2576

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Hi all - I posted this at r/vintageomega as well, sorry to those of you who see it twice.

This 2576 belonged to my grandfather. The serial number on the movement puts it at 1953-54 production. Caliber is 342.



The case back however is for a 2577 and says it was assembled in La Fonda.

I don’t know what the QC in La Fonda was like back then. I suspect either the wrong caseback was put on during assembly or someone replaced the original with an incorrect one later.

At any rate, it’s clear that the watch has been redialed, and not well. I think someone took a dial or stamp or something for the 2577 or some other reference with a central seconds and used it here, which would explain the terrible placement of the Seamaster logo.

The Omega logo looks applied to me, but not applied well.

I also know the crown is incorrect. My local watchmaker wasn’t able to find a correct one.

Crystal just got replaced.

What else do you notice and what (if anything) can be done?

I’m torn about whether to do anything. It’s an heirloom and I’m never selling it. I sorta think, don’t do anything but maintain it. This is the watch my grandfather had. He or someone in the family had this work done. (Other relatives had it before it got to me.) It was worn enough to need work and this is the watch we have. And so we stick with it.

But another part of me says, wouldn’t it be cool to restore it close(r) to what it would’ve looked like when Grandpa bought it?

What are you thoughts on the state of the watch and what if anything I should do about it?

Thanks all!

 
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You may have uploaded the wrong internal photos. They seem to be for a center-second hand winding watch with a 30mm movement.

As for restoring the 2576, I'd say that finding an original dial would be my highest priority. I could live with the case-back.
 
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You may have uploaded the wrong internal photos. They seem to be for a center-second hand winding watch with a 30mm movement.

As for restoring the 2576, I'd say that finding an original dial would be my highest priority. I could live with the case-back.
You’re right - good catch.

 
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You’re right - good catch.


You may have uploaded the wrong internal photos. They seem to be for a center-second hand winding watch with a 30mm movement.

As for restoring the 2576, I'd say that finding an original dial would be my highest priority. I could live with the case-back.
What’s the best way to go about that? I’m not set up to do it myself and I’m not sure my local watchmaker is either.
 
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That is also not the internal photos for a 2576, which would be a bumper movement. That appears to be a 2846 or 2848 with something like a cal 501 full rotor movement.

Did your grandfather have all of these watches? I'm sure we'd love to see photos.
 
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It looks like you have a reference 2848 (not 2846 with center second). Before it was redialed, it would have looked like the one in this thread:


In my opinion, it doesn't make sense to try to restore it back to the original condition. I would keep grandpa's watch as is and look for another 2848 on eBay or the like if you're interested in getting one closer to how it would've looked from the factory.
 
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That is also not the internal photos for a 2576, which would be a bumper movement. That appears to be a 2846 or 2848 with something like a cal 501 full rotor movement.

Did your grandfather have all of these watches? I'm sure we'd love to see photos.
He didn’t! The silver dialed one is the only one he owned. The second set of movement photos I posted are definitely the movement for the one whose dial I posted.

I thought it was a 2576 but sounds like I’m wrong about that. I have more to learn! What are you seeing?
 
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OK, if those are the internal photos for the dial you posted, it should be a ref 2848 as @stormysky10 noted, circa 1955. Here is the vintage Omega page for that reference. It shows a different dial variation than your grandfather's watch, there were many different dials for a given reference.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-seamaster-omega-ck-2848'

What you are reading as "La Fonda" just refers to instructions about assembling the watch with a washer in the back. I don't know where you see 2577, the caseback pretty clearly indicates 2846 or 2848.

Looks like it has one of those Olongapo bracelets.
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It looks like you have a reference 2848 (not 2846 with center second). Before it was redialed, it would have looked like the one in this thread:


In my opinion, it doesn't make sense to try to restore it back to the original condition. I would keep grandpa's watch as is and look for another 2848 on eBay or the like if you're interested in getting one closer to how it would've looked from the factory.
Ah okay, that makes a lot more sense re the reference. Thank you!
 
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OK, if those are the internal photos for the dial you posted, it should be a ref 2848 as @stormysky10 noted, circa 1955. Here is the vintage Omega page for that reference. It shows a different dial variation than your grandfather's watch, there were many different dials for a given reference.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-seamaster-omega-ck-2848'

What you are reading as "La Fonda" just refers to instructions about assembling the watch with a washer in the back. I don't know where you see 2577, the caseback pretty clearly indicates 2846 or 2848.

Looks like it has one of those Olongapo bracelets.
Got it - thank you!
 
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Got it - thank you!
OK, if those are the internal photos for the dial you posted, it should be a ref 2848 as @stormysky10 noted, circa 1955. Here is the vintage Omega page for that reference. It shows a different dial variation than your grandfather's watch, there were many different dials for a given reference.

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-seamaster-omega-ck-2848'

What you are reading as "La Fonda" just refers to instructions about assembling the watch with a washer in the back. I don't know where you see 2577, the caseback pretty clearly indicates 2846 or 2848.

Looks like it has one of those Olongapo bracelets.
Oh and I think the bracelet is Native American. It's turquoise on top.
 
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Leave it as is. Unless you know for sure your Gpa bought it. Could have won it in a poker game

He wore it that way. Wear it the same way
 
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I sorta think, don’t do anything but maintain it. This is the watch my grandfather had
Your instincts are right on! This is what he looked at and what was on his wrist. Preserve the memory!
If you want a representation of what that watch originally looked like, seek one out.
Please don't lose what was his for it's warts! History has it's own beauty.
If you are going to alter its appearance from what he owned, you might want to get a haircut and get in shape yourself! Just joking but you get the point.
He wore it that way. Wear it the same way
DON said it best.

By all means, take an interest and find a watch "like the day it was new". We can help.

Would love to see pictures, especially him with the watch.

A great family treasure.
 
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Bryan, I did not sell that bracelet, I swear!
I gave it to that lady.