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Crown is rigid, Getting a Callus on the thumb from winding this Speedy.

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There's no guarantee that a service will resolve the issue. I own four manual-wind Speedmasters -- a mixture of cal. 321, 1861, and 3861. Three of the four wind as easy as can be, but the fourth -- a Cal. 1861 -- has always been extremely hard to wind. I have had Omega service it twice to address the winding issue and it has come back in the same condition as when it went in. I've owned that particular watch for nine years and I'd say that just in the past year it has become noticeably easier to wind.
Me too. Four 3861s, two are very easy, snoopy is a little tougher, the white one is a bitch to turn. It's the one that was repaired last summer because it only ran 8-12 hours. Not a complaint, just an observation.
 
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Evitzee Evitzee
I have twelve Speedmasters and various other manual wind watches, and none of them is being worn right now, no need to keep a manual watch wound when not in use, it accomplishes nothing. Save time and your fingers!!
Out of my 5 Speedies only 1 is automatic, between my Chronograph GS SBGB001 Japan, and triple 6 Vintage SeaDweller and Big Block Panda & Reverse Panda Tudors I don’t put the manual Speedies into use as often as my Aventurine Speedy that being said winding it 3-4 times every 4 weeks or so I make sure non of that finger work goes to waste lol.
I found myself wearing my 116520 Daytona only 4-5 times in 2 years since I got this Aventurine, It had been my Grail since 2016 when I first tried it on at the AD…
 
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Jones in LA Jones in LA
There's no guarantee that a service will resolve the issue. I own four manual-wind Speedmasters -- a mixture of cal. 321, 1861, and 3861. Three of the four wind as easy as can be, but the fourth -- a Cal. 1861 -- has always been extremely hard to wind. I have had Omega service it twice to address the winding issue and it has come back in the same condition as when it went in. I've owned that particular watch for nine years and I'd say that just in the past year it has finally become easier to wind.
Thanks for the input. This rests my expectations of the piece for after servicing it… might take to a reputable service tech to check the crown gaskets though it did pass WP test in winter of 2023. I don’t believe this Aventurine has ever been serviced that being said I’m keen on investing on a manual winder after servicing this Speedy.
 
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Jones in LA Jones in LA
There's no guarantee that a service will resolve the issue. I own four manual-wind Speedmasters -- a mixture of cal. 321, 1861, and 3861. Three of the four wind as easy as can be, but the fourth -- a Cal. 1861 -- has always been extremely hard to wind. I have had Omega service it twice to address the winding issue and it has come back in the same condition as when it went in. I've owned that particular watch for nine years and I'd say that just in the past year it has finally become easier to wind.
Yeah, I can say this has been my experience, too. I once purchased a second-hand, nearly new 3570.50 that had so much resistance to winding the crown that I sold it along after a few months. A few years later my wife purchased a new 3570.50 as a birthday gift to me, and I'm lucky that this one winds easily and smoothly. It just received its first service at age ten. I asked the watchmaker if he could preserve its ease of winding, and he said he could treat the seal around the stem with a lubricant that was temporary and wouldn't deteriorate the seal itself, and that seems to have worked (the watchmaker is Omega-certified and reputable).

Obligatory photo because... well... just because 😀

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The Bergeon came today. I don't know if it's worth 46$, but it makes it (them, lol) a LOT easier to wind. It does work with crown guards too. The rubber tip is conical and grips the knurled crown. Just uses tension to grip.
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The Bergeon came today. I don't know if it's worth 46$, but it makes it a LOT easier to wind. It does work with crown guards too. The rubber tip is conical and grips the knurled crown. Just uses tension to grip.
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If you end up using it every day and it makes winding a breeze--it's worth its price.
 
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If you end up using it every day and it makes winding a breeze--it's worth its price.
Well, every other day anyway but I agree.
 
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That’s true I been wearing it in rotation every 4 weeks 😬 I wonder what the turn around time would be with the Swatch Group Service centre in the States

I dropped off my Aqua Terra Skyfall at my local OB on January 23rd. I called yesterday to check up and was told it's showing an estimated completion date of May 16.
 
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I dropped off my Aqua Terra Skyfall at my local OB on January 23rd. I called yesterday to check up and was told it's showing an estimated completion date of May 16.
Sheesh that’s the opposite of systematic Henry Ford assembly line progression… I mean I can’t be too quick to promise myself speedy service turnaround that being said might as well aim for Sep/Oct drop off at least catch the summer sunshine on my Aventurine dial…
 
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Last summer it was right at two months for warranty service on my white dial 3861.
 
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bsowers34 bsowers34
The Bergeon came today. I don't know if it's worth 46$, but it makes it a LOT easier to wind. It does work with crown guards too. The rubber tip is conical and grips the knurled crown. Just uses tension to grip.
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Thanks for sharing the hands on experience,
It’s Tempting 🤔 I don’t wear or carry all my Speedies at once but I also can’t come up with a solid reason for not buying this Bergeon winder…
 
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Yeah, I can say this has been my experience, too. I once purchased a second-hand, nearly new 3570.50 that had so much resistance to winding the crown that I sold it along after a few months. A few years later my wife purchased a new 3570.50 as a birthday gift to me, and I'm lucky that this one winds easily and smoothly. It just received its first service at age ten. I asked the watchmaker if he could preserve its ease of winding, and he said he could treat the seal around the stem with a lubricant that was temporary and wouldn't deteriorate the seal itself, and that seems to have worked (the watchmaker is Omega-certified and reputable).

Obligatory photo because... well... just because 😀

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Do you mind if I pm you about your technician if he’s in SoCal I might be interested in meeting him, I’m into 5+ yrs of ownership on the Manual winding mk2 & broad arrow Speedy. They’re not all my daily wrist candy however my personal Mk2 145014 chrono hour hand is sticking from time to time (I’m always running the chronos on my 861s) …
 
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The Bergeon came today. I don't know if it's worth 46$, but it makes it a LOT easier to wind. It does work with crown guards too. The rubber tip is conical and grips the knurled crown. Just uses tension to grip.
If it scratches your OCD itch $46 is cheap. 😀
 
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This is probably a question for Archer if you're watching this thread at all. Does using the Bergeon winder cause any stress on the crown tube or movement? You have to hold the watch from the opposite side and press pretty hard while winding with the ball end in the palm.
 
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bsowers34 bsowers34
The Bergeon came today. I don't know if it's worth 46$, but it makes it (them, lol) a LOT easier to wind. It does work with crown guards too. The rubber tip is conical and grips the knurled crown. Just uses tension
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Do you have a part or model number for that winding tool? I can’t seem to find it. Thanks!
 
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Do you have a part or model number for that winding tool? I can’t seem to find it. Thanks!
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