Craft breweries over-hopping every style of beer…

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But is it artisanally crafted in the Byron Hinterland using locally sourced ethically harvested rainwater & is the harvest done by hand by gluten free vegan influencers?

Probably why you can only buy it in six packs those gluten free vegans only have the strength to carry enough water for a six pack.



Yuppies….who the hell only drinks 6 beers…..come to Darwin your not making it to lunch with a six pack
 
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I have not drunk any alcohol for 9 months. I've lost 20 lbs and saved a lot of money.
 
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Sounds like the same old story

Marketers and consultants now making beer it seems.
 
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I’ve been into Lagers and great light session IPA’s from Lagunitas and Deschutes. I too am just done with heavy, overhopped ales. The bourbon barrel aged crap, is undrinkable. I cant understand the attraction.
 
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Watney's Red Barrel. If you see it, buy it.
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You are not a beer guru, you are just a very naughty boy!


Time to get a Budweiser Budvar from the fridge
 
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I don't care for hoppy beers but the craft brewery revolution that began in the 1990s was one of the best things to happen in the US in my lifetime. This is why we don't have to drink Schlitz and Hamm's anymore. Pabst was the hipster beer.
 
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My favorite beer style is definitely Pilsner lager. Schlitz (60s recipe) was my favorite but something happened and it just didn't taste right anymore, which was a sincere disappointment. Back to drinking Miller High Life, though I had some Leinenkugel Dark Lager the other day and that was good.
 
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My favorite beer style is definitely Pilsner lager. Schlitz (60s recipe) was my favorite but something happened and it just didn't taste right anymore, which was a sincere disappointment. Back to drinking Miller High Life, though I had some Leinenkugel Dark Lager the other day and that was good.

Craft breweries and their fans tend to look down on lagers and pilsners, but a good one is quite refreshing on a hot day. I’m partial to Tecate.
 
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My favorite beer style is definitely Pilsner lager. Schlitz (60s recipe) was my favorite but something happened and it just didn't taste right anymore, which was a sincere disappointment. Back to drinking Miller High Life, though I had some Leinenkugel Dark Lager the other day and that was good.

I like all sorts of beers (just not hoppy ones) and on a hot day Miller High Life goes down very well.
 
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I had Heineken on tap once and it was remarkable how much it tasted like Miller High Life back when they were using corn. Can't stand the crap in the bottles, it always tasted skunky to me.
 
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I had discovered Newcastle Brown Ale several years ago, and it was available in the US. Then a couple years ago I noticed that the logo and the recipe had changed to a hoppier version for the US. Very disappointing. Spotted Cow from Wisconsin requires a 45 minute drive to the border from Illinois, but is worth the trip!
 
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Preferably in a Party Seven and it better be warm too!
So, if my guess that you were born in 1967 is correct, what do you know about the Party Sevens in the 1960/70s? Even as a teenager (!) I refused to drink the stuff.

I will mention the one thing that Grotneys beer did that was a winner -- it led to the foundation of the Campaign For Real Ale (CAMRA) and that was a serious turning point.
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Disclosure: I'm a part-owner of a craft brewery and distillery which is guilty of some of these sins (and not so much of others). Happy to try to answer any questions about the industry.

Some breweries don’t seem to know how to make anything other than IPA.

Craft breweries have a problem that they have costs which don't scale in the same way as large breweries, so they need to produce a product that's differentiated and which they can charge a premium price for. In practice, this means they need to chase what beer fans are really valuing, which has been very hoppy beers for a few years -- it's both different from what you can get from mass-market brewers, allows some differentiation among beers from different craft breweries, creates a product which benefits from freshness and locality, and allows a higher price point. The brewers know how to make a variety of products, but they're responding to market demand. Less-hoppy beers just don't sell as well in the kind of craft rotator bars, etc., that sell this beer at these prices and which are addressable by the distribution and sales channels available to small craft breweries.

A growing and vibrant alternative is sours, which share some of the value and differentiation character of hoppy beers.

don’t get me started on craft whiskey distillers that sell a 2-year-old single “small barrel” bourbon for 2 to 3 times the price of a bottle of Wild Turkey 101

I hate this too, but again, it's the economics. Starting a business and paying a lot of money to buy equipment and rent space in the kind of locale which supports a local craft distillery, then pay for grain and barrels, then waiting 4+ years for product to be available is just not economically viable. The three options for getting product faster so you can get some money coming in are to do fast-aging in small barrels (crappy product), buy aged whiskey from someone else and put your label on it (deceptive to customers, but very common), or build a business around unaged product like gin (honorable, but not the biggest opportunity for craft spirits). We chose not to go this path: our only whiskey is bottled in bond (fermented, distilled and aged for 4 years on-site in full-size barrels), but it was only possible because of beer revenue.

Isn't it cheaper, faster, easier to produce ales than lagers? That must factor into it.

This is an element: ales can ferment for a week or so, lagers and pilsners can take three. It's very common for fermenting capacity to be the bottleneck for craft breweries, so this is a direct constraint on volume, and thus revenue. And when IPAs are able to demand a higher price than a great craft lager, and are more differentiated from mass-market product, you can see how the market influence results in this. (That said, we're very proud of our pilsner.)
 
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It is the lack of choice which is a shame. I am an oldish fart but by no means ancient and some bars and pubs ONLY have a choice of multiple craft beers or pale ales. I like a pint of bitter (I’m in the UK), refreshing lager or a wheat beer but increasingly find nothing but overly hoppy stuff...
 
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Disclosure: I'm a part-owner of a craft brewery and distillery which is guilty of some of these sins (and not so much of others). Happy to try to answer any questions about the industry.
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or build a business around unaged product like gin (honorable, but not the biggest opportunity for craft spirits).

I started my gin drinking in hotel bars in the USA with whatever they offered in a Martini cocktail. After a day on a exhibition stand I needed a plurality. Then my life shifted to have a lot of involvement in Netherlands. In a gin bar there (remember they invented gin) you are confronted with 5 different ages from Jonge to Zeer Oude . My current preference is for Zeer Oude, but cannot buy it where I now live -- what chance it would take off in the USA?
 
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My current preference is for Zeer Oude, but cannot buy it where I now live -- what chance it would take off in the USA?
You would need to encourage a craft distiller to offer it. I don't know how much Dutch gin is available here, but it seems everything is London Dry.
 
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I had discovered Newcastle Brown Ale several years ago, and it was available in the US. Then a couple years ago I noticed that the logo and the recipe had changed to a hoppier version for the US. Very disappointing. Spotted Cow from Wisconsin requires a 45 minute drive to the border from Illinois, but is worth the trip!

I noticed this as well! Used to be one of my favorites and now I can’t stand it. Just hope Shiner Bock doesn’t join the trend.