Cosmic moonphase 2486-2 help

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Hi guys, newbie here.. Would appreciate inputs on this watch..

Have not seen a matte dial of this shade in pictures before.. Redialled?

Thanks for any info anyone can provide

 
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Yes that is a redial. Poor printing all around. Also is that a Seamaster crown...
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Redial, amongst many tells on a 2486 the minute track should be outside the date track, yours isn't.
 
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Caseback engraving looks pretty uniformed.
However the size of the font for the model no. Looks a tad 'tiny'?
 
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Thanks all for your inputs guys..
I was pretty sure of it being correct(except for the dial color). Made some references to articles and pictures online, and I still got it wrong *sigh*
Glad that I haven't pulled the trigger on this.
I've got a long way to go...

Can anyone post a pic of an actual original dial please?
1)@cristos71 - i've seen minute tracks on both inside and outside the dates though, they are all redials as well?
2)@Interstellar - how should the OMEGA look like on an original?

Thank you once again
 
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Thanks all for your inputs guys..
I was pretty sure of it being correct(except for the dial color). Made some references to articles and pictures online, and I still got it wrong *sigh*
Glad that I haven't pulled the trigger on this.
I've got a long way to go...

Can anyone post a pic of an actual original dial please?
1)@cristos71 - i've seen minute tracks on both inside and outside the dates though, they are all redials as well?
2)@Interstellar - how should the OMEGA look like on an original?

Thank you once again

@cristos71 was referring to original dials in the jumbo case size which is what your watch is. The more commonly seen smaller case size (35mm) have the minute track inside the dates.

And the watch you just posted looks like it has an original dial.
 
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Are crosshairs at the moon aperture common on 2471s? Redialed? Restored?
 
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Are crosshairs at the moon aperture common on 2471s? Redialed? Restored?
Looks good to me. Omega-2471-6-Vintage-Cosmic-Triple-Date-Moon-Phase-SS-21150-1.jpg
 
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Thanks apsm100😀

How about the indexes? Are they different because it is a different variant?

Yes I am sure other members can you show you the variations.

Also you may want to check that case is indeed a 2471. Looks like a Seamaster case.
 
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Hmm.. What is a surefire way to check the case?
Will the engraving on the inside of the caseback be sufficient? Would it be a case of correct case, incorrect caseback or vice-versa?
 
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Hmm.. What is a surefire way to check the case?
Will the engraving on the inside of the caseback be sufficient? Would it be a case of correct case, incorrect caseback or vice-versa?

Sorry I'm an idiot; it looks to be a 2606. I think its all good and very nice 😀
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I think the OP should slow down a bit and take some time to do a little more learning as there is quite a lot to discover and the more watches viewed the easier it becomes to spot the redials.

There are three ( non-solid gold ) references that are mainly seen, the 2471 ( steel or steel/gold bezel ), 2606 ( gold top ) and 2846 jumbo ( gold filled or steel ). Some are more common than others, but most are hard to find with good original dials as all the nice ones live with @MSNWatch 😁

There is also ref 3944 which is the square solid gold version and a couple of round solid gold references but I don't know all the reference numbers of these.

Each reference has in typical Omega fashion a multitude of slightly differing dial designs, featuring differing printed and applied indices. Some dials have an applied Omega symbol, some don't (maybe the earlier ones are printed- I don't know). Most dials are in light colours but they can also be found in black once in a while. There are two common hand variants. Some seldom seen 2471 dials are lumed, these will have lumed syringe hands.

Here are the three common references next to each other a 2471, a 2486 rose gold filled and a 2606 YG top all with applied Omega symbol and underneath a black dialed TT 2471 and lastly another 2471 this time with printed Omega symbol.

And finally a tip for help with dial analysis: study all the date track '2's, they should all be identical and with there being so many ( 13 ) there is plenty chance the re-dialer will have messed a couple up!


2471 2486 2606


2471


2471- printed Omega symbol
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I think the OP should slow down a bit and take some time to do a little more learning as there is quite a lot to discover and the more watches viewed the easier it becomes to spot the redials.

There are three ( non-solid gold ) references that are mainly seen, the 2471 ( steel or steel/gold bezel ), 2606 ( gold top ) and 2846 jumbo ( gold filled or steel ). Some are more common than others, but most are hard to find with good original dials as all the nice ones live with @MSNWatch 😁

There is also ref 3944 which is the square solid gold version and a couple of round solid gold references but I don't know all the reference numbers of these.

Each reference has in typical Omega fashion a multitude of slightly differing dial designs, featuring differing printed and applied indices. Some dials have an applied Omega symbol, some don't (maybe the earlier ones are printed- I don't know). Most dials are in light colours but they can also be found in black once in a while. There are two common hand variants. Some seldom seen 2471 dials are lumed, these will have lumed syringe hands.

Here are the three common references next to each other a 2471, a 2486 rose gold filled and a 2606 YG top all with applied Omega symbol and underneath a black dialed TT 2471 and lastly another 2471 this time with printed Omega symbol.

And finally a tip for help with dial analysis: study all the date track '2's, they should all be identical and with there being so many ( 13 ) there is plenty chance the re-dialer will have messed a couple up!


2471 2486 2606


2471


2471- printed Omega symbol

@cristos71 thanks for the tip and information.
I'm probably a little over enthusiastic at times haha..

I guess the danger is not knowing what to look out for.. And eventually digging a grave for thy ownself hence the 'over zealous' questions..

Glad to be part of the group.. I've got a long way to go😀
 
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Some are more common than others, but most are hard to find with good original dials as all the nice ones live with @MSNWatch.

And the rest lives you...
Stay safe, my friend.
 
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I think the OP should slow down a bit and take some time to do a little more learning as there is quite a lot to discover and the more watches viewed the easier it becomes to spot the redials.

There are three ( non-solid gold ) references that are mainly seen, the 2471 ( steel or steel/gold bezel ), 2606 ( gold top ) and 2846 jumbo ( gold filled or steel ). Some are more common than others, but most are hard to find with good original dials as all the nice ones live with @MSNWatch 😁

There is also ref 3944 which is the square solid gold version and a couple of round solid gold references but I don't know all the reference numbers of these.

Each reference has in typical Omega fashion a multitude of slightly differing dial designs, featuring differing printed and applied indices. Some dials have an applied Omega symbol, some don't (maybe the earlier ones are printed- I don't know). Most dials are in light colours but they can also be found in black once in a while. There are two common hand variants. Some seldom seen 2471 dials are lumed, these will have lumed syringe hands.

Here are the three common references next to each other a 2471, a 2486 rose gold filled and a 2606 YG top all with applied Omega symbol and underneath a black dialed TT 2471 and lastly another 2471 this time with printed Omega symbol.

And finally a tip for help with dial analysis: study all the date track '2's, they should all be identical and with there being so many ( 13 ) there is plenty chance the re-dialer will have messed a couple up!


2471 2486 2606


2471


2471- printed Omega symbol

That black dial ......dammit...... can't unsee this......dibs. kind regards. Achim