Constellation ST 168 018 - Back from STS Service

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Welcome to the forum
Are you sure it's a .010?
With the flat dial and pronounced crown it looks more like an .018 to me
Shame about the missing marker
You can try the watchguy also
There was a recent thread on the watchguy (use the OF search function )that had another recommendation too

Having looked at a few more images and past sales on OF it does look like an .018 so you may be correct Peemacgee 馃憤
 
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In my experience, most watchmakers don't purchase spare parts for inventory. If they need something, they'll buy it when needed.

Interesting observation. Well, my own experience and seeing countless watchmaker estates with tons of spare parts being sold off, I think watchmakers buying spares for inventory is actually pretty common. It was common that in the past if you need a stem, you bought a quarter dozen as they used to be sold in packages labelled that way. A major source of vintage spare parts that supply houses like Jules Borel, Casker, etc. carry come from buying up watchmaker estates. I've been in the "back rooms" of some of these places and seen the piles and piles of boxes that they have bought and not sorted through yet. Last year I bought a bunch of spare Rolex movement parts (for vintage, not modern) from a watchmaker who is retiring who has a boatload of stock.

Certainly I don't have everything I need in stock, as I would go broke doing so, but I keep common replacement parts in stock and parts that I know are in danger of being discontinued. When I do my annual inventory, I lay the parts out and snap photos, and then go through them later to update my inventory...here are just a few of the Omega mainsprings I had in stock at the beginning of the year just as an example...



There are many more Omega springs, plus Rolex springs, then ETA springs, etc. Then all sorts of other movement parts, hands, dials, and even cases. Each year I try to keep the inventory from growing, but it's not easy...could buy a nice car with the value of parts I have in stock at the moment.

Now for a vintage dial, I always return replaced parts to the owners, so I don't have a lot of those kicking around - what I have would be from what's left on donor movements that I've bought for spare parts typically. So I do agree that a watchmaker having a specific marker for a specific dial on hand is likely a long shot.

Cheers, Al
 
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About whether it's worth getting it fixed, that's a subjective question. I'm sure whichever watchmaker you choose will give you a quote and it'll be up to you whether to procede. I think getting an heirloom fixed so you could wear it and pass it down would be priceless and worth whatever it costs, but obviously not if that means you don't have food to eat that month.

If you're actually thinking of selling it and not keeping it, you'd probably be better off selling it as-is and letting the buyer pay for service and replacement dial or 7 hour marker. If you do have it serviced, keep the receipt, buyers will not credit that a service took place without seeing it.
 
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Having found out a bit more about the watches history and checked a few watchmakers out (one being Cyril at The Watch Service Centre which is reasonably local to me) I am going to get it fixed. Depending on the cost it may be soon it, it may be in a few months or years down the line but so be it... The same applies with the missing marker too i suppose... I will get it up and running and wearable at least though.

As you say kkt its an heirloom so to be able to pass it down and keep it in the family would be worth the money and as much as I like the watch, I LIKE my food馃嵖!
 
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Hi Guys

Hopefully someone with experience will pick this up and be able to advise... I have received a price for service of this watch for 拢430 by Swiss Time Services in the UK - is this reasonable? I believe they are a reputable company and have recommendations here. The service consists of "Movement service, Case clean, New crown, New Glass, New seals, Testing for water resistance & 2 year guarantee".

STS have also said they are "confident" of finding a correct replacement for the missing baton which is making me lean towards sending it there for the work to be done as ...

Now having read this forum and Desmond's blog I am in two minds as to whether to replace the crown and crystal as i have read advice against replacing original parts. I asked STS to clarify if changing these parts is necessary and they have said it would be to guarantee the water resistance... I do intent to wear the watch but not on a daily basis and don't plan on exposing it to water directly i.e. shower, swimming etc but also I don't want to do any irreversible damage should it get exposure to moisture whilst being worn or in storage.

In short I suppose the question is, is it prudent to get the new glass, crown, seals etc replaced as part of the service so the water resistance is maintained or is it wiser to keep the originals?

TIA
 
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The crown and crystal will be genuine Omega parts so no problem and will give you peace of mind (you get to keep the original parts)
And the correct crown is still available for this reference
I have to say that 拢480 sounds a little steep
Even allowing for crown and crystal
(Are you sure it's that much?)

But getting the replacement marker would be priceless to you
 
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Yes 拢430 is what has been quoted, that is including VAT which is i suppose some consolation. I have had prices from other companies ranging from 拢230-拢360 so the STS price is definately at the top end!

Getting the replacement marker could be a deal breaker though. Providing it is the correct one...
 
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I've a feeling 拢230 would be service only ?

Crystal and crown will add up - perhaps another 拢100?
You also get a 2 year warranty - most watchmakers in U.K. Only offer 1 year
Also who you send it to is important - should be a trusted watchmaker
There are others (less expensive) out there but I don't know any who could readily source your missing marker
(A word of warning -if there is anything wrong with the movement it will cost more but this is relatively rare with Connies in my experience )

BTW you need to change the title of your thread 馃槈
 
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Thanks Peemacgee, you make some good points and your advice is just what i was looking for. I've updated the title 馃憤
 
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I'd go with STS. Any replacement parts will be Omega and you'll get the originals back and if you are caught out in a monsoon when walking though a jungle it's good to know that the watch is properly waterproof.
 
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Just thought I would post an update after receiving my watch back from STS following a service.

Thanks to those who recommended the company and I have to say the service I received was great. Speaking to Tony beforehand to talk through the proposed work of replacing the missing marker reassured me the watch would be in safe hands.

I'm really happy with the outcome and even more happy to be able to start wearing the watch my Grandad wore over many years. There are still some of the marks and signs of wear on the case but to be honest I wanted to keep it that way as they remind me of the life the watch had before I had the pleasure to wear it.

Cheers OF

 
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great result -congratulations!

enjoy wearing your grandfathers Connie
 
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Well done (for taking good advice and not just trusting the first "watchmaker" you bumped into).

You now have a truly nice Connie.
 
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The work STS do is outstanding and IMHO far outshines the factory in terms of the customer service they can give, their turn around times and the quality of work they offer 10/10
 
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Wow. Looks great. I'm sending them one of my watches this week from the US. I have only heard good things.

Did you ask them not to refinish the case or when they refinish it is only a light/sympathetic refinish? Hope that makes sense

K
 
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Wow. Looks great. I'm sending them one of my watches this week from the US. I have only heard good things.

Did you ask them not to refinish the case or when they refinish it is only a light/sympathetic refinish? Hope that makes sense

K

Thank you K and yeah I just asked for the case to be cleaned. I specifically said no polishing as I wanted to keep the shape of the case and lugs as close to original as possible.
 
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Looks fantastic! Did they tell you how they sourced the missing marker?
 
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Looks fantastic! Did they tell you how they sourced the missing marker?

They had it in stock already, presumably from items they had worked on or acquired previously. My understanding is that STS have a database with photographs and info for every watch they work on so have a pretty good idea of spares etc they hold - I guess the kind of system @Archer refers to above...

When I enquired they were the only company who said they could replace the marker and when I spoke with the MD to fully confirm he was very confident they had the right one - turns out he was right!

Also listen to @tyrantlizardrex time4apint podcast with Tony as it gives a great insight in to how the company works
 
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When I enquired they were the only company who said they could replace the marker and when I spoke with the MD to fully confirm he was very confident they had the right one - turns out he was right!

Also listen to @tyrantlizardrex time4apint podcast with Tony as it gives a great insight in to how the company works

They have such a huge supply of parts in their stockrooms that it beggars belief - talking to Tony, they've bought a lot of "scrap" watches over the years, and a lot of dead stock from other watchmakers and from Omega themselves... if you're lucky, they have what you need! 馃榾