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  1. Rowbear23 May 13, 2022

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    I have a chance to buy these two pieces and told the seller I would come back with a price. My question is about the constellation specifically but I'm including some pictures of a seamaster the person also has available. I cannot find a constellation exactly the same as this which makes me wonder if it's been pieced together. I believe it has a cal. 501, 20 jewel and is a pie pan arrowhead dial. The rotor says nothing about tested in 5 positions and the caseback does not have the observatory on it. I'm sorry I didn't get a picture of the caseback when I looked at it. The closest I can find is a 2852-6sc. What do y'all think, Frankenwatch? Value? Is the seamaster redialed? Dials of both are in poor shape. Sorry for the poor quality of the photos.
     
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  2. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 13, 2022

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    1st watch is a poorly redialled Seamaster.

    2nd watch is an original dial frankenwatch. I do not think that the pie pan dial was used with the older cal. 501 movements. Only with the slightly later cal 505. And if there is no gold observatory on the back, then it is likely the caseback is also from another watch.

    I would stay away from both of these.
    gatorcpa
     
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  3. Dan S May 13, 2022

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    We all know what's coming next. "But how much are they worth?" ::popcorn::
     
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  4. Rowbear23 May 13, 2022

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    hey Dan, I've got some popcorn you can eat ...
     
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  5. TexOmega May 13, 2022

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    Hackles UP
     
  6. Rowbear23 May 13, 2022

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  7. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member May 13, 2022

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    Yes. The description is incorrect.

    It’s a cal. 561 movement, which should be a calendar.
    gatorcpa

    PS - No 20 jewel cal. 501 chronometers were ever made.
     
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  8. Zapatta May 14, 2022

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    Looks like Denisson cased Constellation.
     
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  9. mac_omega May 14, 2022

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    run!
     
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  10. Rowbear23 May 14, 2022

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    thanks for the help everyone. Saved me from overpaying for what would ultimately have become another long-term project.
     
  11. nicks May 14, 2022

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    Nice to see the Forum help a guy dodge a bullet. Whew, they were awful…
     
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    This forum and the people on it are AWESOME!