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Size is not the only issue here. Some members would argue it never is! In fact it doesn't prove much at all in the face of the overwhelming evidence that the first De Luxe, and not Grand Luxe, models were the 2699 and the 2700. Omega and other literature categorically states this fact.

The livery and indeed the lettering of your dial indicates its production well after 1952-53, and coupled with the fact that the first pie pan was produced after the retirement of the 2648 doesn't leave much, if any, wriggle room. I think your explanation of a later replacement is plausible.

Cheers

Desmond
 
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Wow, some amazing watches on this thread.

I’ve only just started to investigate vintage watches and the pie pan dial is always the watch that I’m drawn to the most
 
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Hi Desmond @mondodec ,
Thank you very much for your valuable comments.
Sorry, it took me some time to respond cuz I got to go to the bank to take out my Grand Luxe 14355 for taking pictures and measurement.
The answer to your speculation that the dial may be a donor from a Grand Luxe 14355 is no. Because the size of the 14355 dial is 17.6 mm which is not a matching size of 19.6 mm like mine. Also, it is a printed "OMEGA" logo on the dial. Please see picture below.

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I think you cannot ignore the fact that my 2648 stepped 18k gold dial is a matching size of 19.6mm for Constellation 2648. In fact, I have seen 2648 with Grand Luxe dials of 17.6mm and the dial rim will have be covered by tension ring of the crystal, which is wrong for Constellation 2648 models. In the case of a 17.6 mm donor dial, without tension ring will leave a gap between the rim the the dial and the case edge.

The originality and beauty of my stepped 18k gold dial can be confirmed by a mutual friend, RonnieS who had seen my watch in person.
I would say, Anything is possible for early vintage Omega Constellation. Especially for early ones in 1950s when archive of variations of dials are not comprehensive/ complete. An applied "OMEGA" pie-pan on the very first model of Constellation is not possible but when it comes to the 3rd/ 4th or even 7th/ 8th batch of the first model, who knows. Of course, another possibility is a later service dial or a custom-made dial from Omega factory. Ha ha.

Cheers,
1jansen

IMO I think the stepped dial could be original to the 2648. The dial diameter argues strongly for this since I am not aware of any other connie reference that will fit a 29.6mm dial in the "RE" era (or even in the post "RE" era). The other alternative explanation is that omega produced this dial without any intention of using it in a watch and that too me is a less likely explanation (Occam's razor). That first connie reference had a huge variety of dials - some of which were earmarked for later production and others didn't see the light of day. I have 8 of these reference with 7 different dials.
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IMO I think the stepped dial could be original to the 2648. The dial diameter argues strongly for this since I am not aware of any other connie reference that will fit a 29.6mm dial in the "RE" era (or even in the post "RE" era). The other alternative explanation is that omega produced this dial without any intention of using it in a watch and that too me is a less likely explanation (Occam's razor). That first connie reference had a huge variety of dials - some of which were earmarked for later production and others didn't see the light of day. I have 8 of these reference with 7 different dials.

Hi @MSNWatch,
Thanks for your comments and additional information.
May I have the honour of seeing your 8 Connies with 7 diffeent dials. Or, you might have shown it somewhere in the Forum ? Please give me a link. Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
1jansen
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2 are in 18k rose gold, 1 in 14 rose gold and the rest 18k yellow gold. The first and last one also have boxes and original chronometre certificates.

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Dear senior OF member,
Love your stunning pieces .
The last one, a ss Connie (2648) is a wow!! Almost NOS condition with matching bracelet. Congratulations. Thank you for sharing.
Cheers,

p.s. It prompts me to remember I had a similar Connie but ref. 2652 sold to mrMinto at eBay some years ago. Here is a file image.

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And own this watch which I got about 8 years ago.

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2 are in 18k rose gold, 1 in 14 rose gold and the rest 18k yellow gold. The first and last one also have boxes and original chronometre certificates.

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Thanks, love your 2648!
 
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mondodec mondodec
Size is not the only issue here. Some members would argue it never is! In fact it doesn't prove much at all in the face of the overwhelming evidence that the first De Luxe, and not Grand Luxe, models were the 2699 and the 2700. Omega and other literature categorically states this fact.

The livery and indeed the lettering of your dial indicates its production well after 1952-53, and coupled with the fact that the first pie pan was produced after the retirement of the 2648 doesn't leave much, if any, wriggle room. I think your explanation of a later replacement is plausible.

Cheers

Desmond

Hi Desmond @mondodec ,
Thanks for your additional comments.
Appreciated.

Cheers,
1jansen
 
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Were the 2648 and 2652 the only references that had the possibility of being “No Name” Globemasters? Were these ever initially sold to customers outside the US? I’ve posted mine earlier on this thread and am looking forward to seeing other varieties of this rare gem. Show them off!
 
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Think the advantage of the Globemaster is that it was the premium model back then. There are really models with superb dials and Indices outside.

Mine has a really nicely textured dial:

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Think the advantage of the Globemaster is that it was the premium model back then. There are really models with superb dials and Indices outside.

Mine has a really nicely textured dial:

IMG_5331.jpg

I have this one's sister! Same dial, except mine has no lume on the hands.
 
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I have this one's sister! Same dial, except mine has no lume on the hands.

Nice, good choice mate 😀
 
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